Weddings
That weddings held in churches be allowed the same number of guests as they are allowed in for services on a Sunday ie 50 people.
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It makes no sense that you can work in a school of 1500 pupils, teach over 200 pupils face to face daily, eat in the restaurant of the hotel you are getting married in with 70 other diners, go to a church service and sit with 50 people yet for your wedding can only have a total of 20 guests. If these figures of 20 are arbitrary then they make no sense and link into nothing else the Scottish Government is insisting on. Please review the numbers allowed to attend for a wedding.
by LC67 on October 05, 2020 at 03:57PM
Posted by Duckbay21 October 05, 2020 at 16:21
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Posted by aisha October 05, 2020 at 16:43
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Posted by LS7 October 05, 2020 at 18:32
Limit if necessary the number of people or hours of the reception in covid safe venues but allow the ceremonies
Many couples need to be marry due to personal/cultural beliefs, if the ceremony doesn't take place they are still away.
With adequate measures a ceremony can take place and for sure a quick/short reception, not difference with a day out at the pub
not the optimum but still a sense of normality in these mad times.
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Posted by CatMacIdeas October 05, 2020 at 19:04
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Posted by lhillis01 October 05, 2020 at 19:58
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Posted by Kayrob October 05, 2020 at 20:01
Wedding guests are usually their nearest and dearest, not complete strangers.
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Posted by Orchard1 October 05, 2020 at 20:13
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Posted by Louann86 October 05, 2020 at 20:26
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Posted by MRSH20 October 05, 2020 at 20:34
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Posted by ljsmall1984 October 05, 2020 at 20:42
It’s also unbelievably stressful to try to organise something with so much uncertainty so it would be so helpful to actually give people a guarantee that things won’t change for a set period of time. The anxiety and mental illness issues experienced by couples really needs to be taken more seriously. I’ve heard of at least 6 brides who are now on medication to help them cope.
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Posted by Gillian90 October 05, 2020 at 20:43
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Posted by Lesleymc13384 October 05, 2020 at 21:07
All members of the wedding party, all guests and all suppliers must give their details to the couple and venues which are kept for track and trace purposes.
Any guests with symptoms must not attend.
Regular handwashing and sanitising carried out.
Each venue deep cleaned between events.
Guests make decisions as to whether or not they can attend.
For the stress, financial burden and anxiety of having to cancel, for the industry which is struggling due to cancellations, for the suppliers, in particular bands, who are losing out greatly we need people to be allowed to celebrate the love the have with their closest friends and family.
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Posted by rubytuesday October 05, 2020 at 21:12
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Posted by JennStraine91 October 05, 2020 at 21:22
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Posted by Annathommo October 05, 2020 at 21:47
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Posted by Act23 October 05, 2020 at 21:48
I don't understand how restaurants can have hundreds of people coming through their doors everynight but we can have a ceremony and meal for more than 20 people....
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Posted by GrannyMac October 05, 2020 at 21:57
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Posted by Susieg77 October 05, 2020 at 22:01
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Posted by LauraPaton October 05, 2020 at 22:02
Ceremony and reception numbers should be based in venue capacity and their ability to ensure weddings are Covid secure not based on an arbitrary number.
Weddings can very easily be tracked and traced as the couple will have the names and contact details of all attendees.
The couple should also be allowed to have a first dance. English guidance has this exception, it’s often a very large part of a wedding reception
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Posted by PamDev October 05, 2020 at 22:03
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Posted by Samanthaforbes28 October 05, 2020 at 22:08
All guests, suppliers, wedding party are either tested 24hrs before the ceremony is due to take place or are tested on arrival if there is anyway to speed up test results.
Or all wedding party, all guests and all suppliers must give their details to the couple and venues which are kept for track and trace purposes.
Any guests with symptoms must not attend.
Regular handwashing and sanitising carried out.
Each venue deep cleaned between events.
Guests make decisions as to whether or not they can attend.
For the stress, financial burden and anxiety of having to cancel, for the industry which is struggling due to cancellations, for the suppliers, in particular bands, who are losing out greatly we need people to be allowed to celebrate the love the have with their closest friends and family.
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Posted by Suzyed October 05, 2020 at 22:15
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Posted by mcdonaldk October 05, 2020 at 22:15
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Posted by Lj_x October 05, 2020 at 22:23
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Posted by FayeJT October 05, 2020 at 22:34
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Posted by GRenrut4 October 05, 2020 at 22:36
A wedding is not just a party it is the biggest celebration in anyone's life and to restrict still, 7months on, with no route map for the industry leaves thousands of couples and suppliers in limbo.
Lockdown has been hard enough but for those couples who will lose thousands as businesses go under, whose lives are on complete hold to start families because they can't get married properly and have the day they've paid for, and for suppliers who are at risk of losing homes as they cant pay their bills, who have been told to get a better job - we have had enough.
We need action, and we need a plan. Our industry hasn't caused any outbreaks so why are we being the ones punished. We can get married safely. Allow us to do so.
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Posted by SG7508 October 05, 2020 at 22:37
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Posted by CraneF October 05, 2020 at 22:50
My husband is a videographer and has completed online covid safety training, he can easily maintain over 2m distance and wear a mask yet a couple would have to exclude a family member or friend to have him attend in a professional capacity. His business has been wiped out this year and showing very slow signs of picking up. The uncertainty in the industry means couples are very reluctant to book anything.
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Posted by am1991 October 05, 2020 at 22:51
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Posted by PartyPeopleEventHire October 05, 2020 at 22:59
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Posted by RLawson91 October 05, 2020 at 23:01
Ensure evening reception entertainment such as wedding bands have access to rapid testing and same with guests to allow for first dances and guests to enjoy themselves and celebrate! The amount of money and time that goes in to planning a wedding cannot be put in to words. People should be able to celebrate with their most trusted family and friends. If possible, advise all guests to isolate for at least 7 days prior to the event to minimise the risk! This cannot go on any longer as the impact on finance and mental health of couples and the those within the wedding industry is at a crucial point now. Need to learn to live with the virus and practice safe habits that allow for lives to resume.
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Posted by MJS94 October 05, 2020 at 23:04
Weddings and funerals should be a priority and be able to go ahead as normal (pre-Covid). Like Italy, fast turnaround Covid tests should be available. All bridal party, guests, suppliers and anyone working at the wedding could have one and it would be their own if they had a test or not which in turn would make their decision whether or not to/they can attend the wedding. Everyone could be reminded of hand washing/sanitising regularly, buffets could be served by staff members instead of self service and track and trace in operation.
With the current restrictions many people can’t even have their immediate family/closest friends with them on the day. How are couples supposed to pick and choose which family members/friends make the cut? It’s so upsetting.
It’s baffling that people are allowed to go on planes and to pubs/restaurants for example with lots of strangers but you can’t have all your nearest and dearest with you on what’s meant to be one of the best days of your life.
This is not just an incredibly tough time for couples, it’s an incredibly tough time for venues and suppliers. The majority of suppliers are self employed and whilst some venues may be able to still offer meals/room bookings, most of their revenue comes from weddings. Everyone in the wedding industry works extremely hard and smaller weddings may not be financially viable for them.
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Posted by Fatimaishaqx October 06, 2020 at 07:02
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Posted by ConnieReid October 06, 2020 at 07:18
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Posted by aisha October 06, 2020 at 08:07
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Posted by KSchaschke October 06, 2020 at 08:19
The number allowed should be at least 50, or even based on how many the venue can hold safely (as is done in restaurants and pubs). Many of these venues would normally hold 200+.
I don't think children should count towards the number of guests, they are not counted in any other situation so I don't understand why they have to count towards an already small number of people allowed. I also think photographer, videographer shouldn't be included in the number of people allowed. They often are 2m at least away from you.
For me personally I have struggled with the uncertainty. We postponed from April to December and I have no idea what kind of day we can have or if it will even happen. If we could be told for definite what will be in place for the next couple of months I think that would help. Always waiting for updates and not knowing what will be said is having an affect on my metal health, particularly on the lead up to announcements.
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Posted by Lmac25 October 06, 2020 at 08:28
If all are sitting and socially distanced, there should be no need for masks to be worn during the ceremony.
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Posted by Amandawilson October 06, 2020 at 08:32
Couples having to wear a mask is frankly ridiculous, we spend every day together before our wedding. The celebrant can socially distance and wear a mask with no touching so very limited risk of infection without couples wearing a mask. Speeches socially distanced, a microphone can be cleaned easily with anti-bac. The first dance, for most couples a slow dance so I don’t think we will be spraying our sweat everywhere...
The onus should be on the venue to protect people by having a risk assessment which determines the amount of people that can be in the space at one time and numbers at a wedding should be directed by this. Robust cleaning services in place could limit transmission.
Lastly I believe that there is so little trust in people to use their judgement, if they feel at risk would they attend a wedding? Unlikely. I know myself some of my guests cancelled their attendance due to fears about COVID which was not a problem. If people as feeling unwell would they go to a wedding and risk passing on the virus? Also unlikely unless they have had a negative COVID test first. We know our family and friends and we should be allowed to invite them to our wedding day. In the current climate with everyone fearing what the future will bring, weddings are so important to bring some joy and celebration to people lives.
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Posted by dwillox1 October 06, 2020 at 08:34
A common sense approach should be taken with weddings. Many venues can accommodate way more than 20 people. Allow venues to increase their capacity based on how many people they can safely accommodate (including the required distancing etc etc). Many venues are currently running at a loss due to being unable to accommodate more than 20 people, this rule is doing more harm than good.
For most couples, the being married part is the most important part of a wedding, this is being overshadowed by constant planning and re-planning for every possible contingency and is having a detrimental effect on bride and grooms mental health. Invited guests to a wedding actively choose to attend. Guests who are unhappy being in a social environment can opt not to attend, but giving them the choice, and trusting them to act in a safe way, is the key here.
Whilst a 20 person wedding is an improvement on earlier restrictions of 10 , what we really need is a LONG TERM PLAN FOR WEDDINGS AND LARGE EVENTS to create some form of stability for the industry. The simply stated "large events may return during phase 4" is not good enough. Many venues and suppliers are already at breaking point, with no indication of when they might be able to resume near "normal" activities. This makes it impossible to plan a wedding with any sort of certainty.
If I had known at the start of the year when I got engaged that this is the wedding planning experience I would have, I would have eloped. Now, that is no longer an available option due to the requirement to quarantine etc and my partner and I are staring down the barrel of a very expensive gun, about to have a wedding we don't want, with 20 guests, in a venue that can accommodate 120. Instead of being excited about what our wedding will be like, we're consumed with what it won't be like as the rules in place appear to change every 3 weeks.
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Posted by WAW2020 October 06, 2020 at 10:22
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Posted by paddygordon October 06, 2020 at 11:22
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Posted by Stacey October 06, 2020 at 11:33
Once our photographer and harpist leave, we are able to reinvite 2 others to come join us for dinner, plus kids under 12. So for the ceremony we are asking those uninvited to the ceremony but invited to the meal to stay downstairs in the restaurant. They can join us afterwards.
That restaurant is smaller than our private function area but has more people seated in it, without wearing masks, than my whole wedding party. This makes me feel nauseous.
Forgetting the numbers as a stress, I am also unaware as to what sort of things will we be allowed, with regards to table centres, favours, gifts, make up artists... All of these things are unknown and I am 24 days away from getting married, trying to keep up a continuous wage as my absence has gone through the roof due to my anxiety which I have never experience the likes of before.
I think the easiest route to resolve this is to put a blanket rule across events, restaurants and pubs alike.
If this is in the genuine interest of public safety, I recommend the government reduces every venue to a maximum of 20 guests excluding staff. So pubs and restaurants can have 20 with children of all ages included in the number. This will make the rules much fairer and clearer.
The alternative then would be that this is no longer being looked at in the interest of public safety, and we continue to allow pubs and restaurants to fill to capacity and weddings get to go ahead under the same rule. Remember that most weddings are taking place in a pub/restaurant environment antway so there really is little difference. The biggest difference being however that at a wedding, the guests are generally included in each others bubbles, know and respect each other well and definitely should be able to respect the social distancing better than a hundred strangers in a pub.
Please consider this, coming from a stressed, newly medicated bride to be, we need change around this matter.
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Posted by cml02 October 06, 2020 at 13:41
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Posted by Caitcrafter October 08, 2020 at 19:53
Is the ban on alcohol indoors applicable to weddings? If so please be more specific. If it IS the case that no alcohol can be served at the wedding, can I suggest you allow one glass of champagne for the toast and one glass of wine during the meal?
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Posted by shannonepickard October 08, 2020 at 21:33
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Posted by cazalex1968 October 09, 2020 at 15:43
I am just hoping and praying that there are some improvements when it comes to the amount of guests at a wedding.
Although this is not my first time it is not any less important a day.
As our children have grown up and have families of their own the current numbers allowed make it very difficult to even include immediate family members only. It is meant to be a celebration of the union of two families but these families cannot celebrate that union fully but could all just meet up in a pub somewhere and have a few distanced drinks in larger numbers if they wished. I think if the wedding, meal, reception are being held in a controlled environment ie a hotel where distancing would be adhered to, smaller tables, sanitising stations etc the numbers could be increased slightly. I am only having a small wedding anyway but It is still stressful.
The wedding industry needs a major boost before more hotels etc go under and more jobs are lost.
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Posted by AileWalk October 11, 2020 at 18:54
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