Current restrictions

What could help enable people to comply with the lockdown restrictions?

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The Scottish Government has committed to engaging with the public and is interested to hear your thoughts on this topic.

by ScottishGovernment on May 04, 2020 at 08:26PM

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  • Posted by Diane May 05, 2020 at 12:52

    I think it’s too early to lift restrictions

  • Posted by Nscott94 May 05, 2020 at 12:54

    The people I see not complying are meeting with friends and family, albeit in small groups. I think allowing smaller social bubbles would greatly improve quality of life and people's mental health.

  • Posted by TheDancingDino May 05, 2020 at 12:58

    Clearer planning that we're trying to accelerate our emergence from the lockdown.

    For example, we know the lockdown works and it's essentially a 'waiting game' until infections and the rate of transmission reduces below a certain threshold. However, many people feel this has taken longer than usual.

    If we set more goals with additional ideas to reduce the length of the lockdown and people are made aware of this, it would help compliance.

    For example: debate a stricter lockdown for a period of 1 week with only health & emergency service workers allowed out to attend work - encourage the public to have enough food/supplies to last this week and it may dramatically reduce the rate of infection? But... would people want that sacrifice to enable a shortening to the current (not as strict) lockdown measures.

  • Posted by Sunnyjo May 05, 2020 at 13:00

    I am getting more and more frustrated by doing the right thing and staying at home, but watching groups of teenagers gathering in our local park or hearing of friends out ‘shopping’ every second day. I am getting to the point of breaking, wondering why I should bother when others certainly don’t. I deliver groceries to my elderly parents once a week, however their town on Saturday was as busy as any day before lockdown.
    I think the restrictions either need to continue and policed better or lifted slightly with much firmer rules such as shopping 2 x per week.

  • Posted by Ranald May 05, 2020 at 13:01

    Think the light at the end of the tunnel incentive is a strong one: if we adhere to current restrictions, it will make it more possible to lessen the lockdown in the near future.

  • Posted by Jane May 05, 2020 at 13:01

     My sense is there is some practical common sense approaches that could assist - as the key issue of risk that we must protect is no physical contact with people outwith the household rather than the fact that you are out only once a day.

      So could more guidance be allowed to enable those who are able to exercise more than once a day as think this would make a huge difference to people’s well-being.

    Appreciate we want to mitigate risk but the majority of people have been compliant thus far so clear practical solutions are likely to be complied with.

  • Posted by cowanpete May 05, 2020 at 13:02

    I appreciate very much the way that the FM [and her co-presenters] keeps the population of Scotland updated, and the way she speaks to us like adults. My view is that if we are advised WHAT sort of relaxations may be introduced, WHY the changes are being intorduced, and WHEN, then this will increase people's willingness to continue to comply with current lockdown recommendations.

  • Posted by gordon1663 May 05, 2020 at 13:04

    Below email was sent to Paul Wood on 24th April 2020 in response to Scottish Government white paper released on 23rd April 2020 - I did not receive any response. When the Scottish Government and particularly the First Minister refer to the Science, perhaps they are forgetting that Maths is also a Science and I believe that the mantra of 'save lives' and the associated lockdown/restrictions will, in the fullness of time, unfortunately prove to have been a grave mistake

    Dear Sir,

    I am writing to you in response to the white paper released on 23rd April 2020. Whilst I have sympathy with those tasked to make difficult decisions, I cannot agree with the current and proposed approach by the Scottish Government for the reasons detailed below:-

    a) From National Records of Scotland - up to 22nd April 2020

    Almost three quarters (74%) of all deaths involving COVID-19 to date were of people aged 75 or over.

    The First Minister has often talked about being led by the Science, however it is not apparent that she is being given the correct analysis if this is indeed the case. Whilst 26% of the deaths can therefore be attributed to people aged under 75, I believe analysis shows that the vast majority of fatalities in this category have had serious underlying health conditions and many of them would have unfortunately passed without the intervention of COVID-19, but this intervention has hastened their passing. Therefore more honest and accurate assessment of this 26% should be provided for review.

    Whilst persons under 75 are testing positive for COVID-19, many are not, and many of those who have tested positive encounter mild to no effects. Clearly there is a period of time when such persons can pass the virus to others and measures should be taken DURING this period ONLY and not to the extent proposed by the First Minister. Once persons under 75 have recovered from COVID-19, then they should be free to return to their normal role in society - clearly more testing would facilitate identification of this category of people and this should be accelerated as much as possible.

    Persons in the vulnerable category i.e. over 75 or with serious underlying health conditions should be required to 'quarantine' for at least three months whilst the general population are exposed to and build a tolerance to COVID-19. Such build up of immunity will further protect the general population from the oft-quoted 'second wave' unless the virus mutates into a form where previous exposure and build up of anti-bodies/immunity is not an effective protection - but no one can foresee what form this mutation or second wave, if indeed any, may take.

    The First Minister has also refused or been unwilling to acknowledge the large spike in deaths, unconnected with COVID-10, since the lockdown measures were introduced. Anecdotal evidence suggests that admissions to A&E have dramatically reduced, visits to Doctors are not allowed, precautions necessary for the Emergency Services result in longer times to attend patients etc etc ALL because of the disproportionate response to COVID-19 which as of today 24th April has resulted in ONLY 1184 deaths in hospitals which is equivalent to the total number of deaths registered in Scotland in one week. More urgent investigation is required into the recorded causes and background of this spike in non-COVID-19 deaths.

    Further to above, one of the impacts of the disproportionate response to COVID-19 is that hospitals have minimised and in some cases eliminated elective treatments, including for patients already diagnosed with cancers and heart related conditions that are very likely, if un-treated, likely to result in death - The First Minister should be more transparent on this matter and if she is truly (and not just a paper exercise) trying to gain public support for her proposal, needs to explain why one patients treatment is more deserved than an others.

    Now the economic effect of the lockdown - this is not to be measured only in financial terms although it's clear that unemployment will rise significantly and many previously successful businesses will close never to re-open with huge knock on implications for unemployment, tax revenues and general wellbeing of the population. No amount of furlough or government support will replace these 'lost lives'. Studies of the reduction in life expectancy in many areas of the UK, particularly in the West of Scotland, are categoric in linking this to the effects of austerity and by most peoples reckoning the austerity measures necessary post-COVID-19 will be far harder and far reaching than the 2008 financial crisis because the starting point will be much lower i.e. the unemployment rate will be higher and the job/business opportunities far lower. Therefore we can fully expect a significant impact on mortality rates and life expectancy due to the economic chaos brought about by a prolonged lockdown.

    it's also already clear that mental illness and domestic abuse are being heightened by the lockdown and many will undoubtedly suffer great hardships as a result and taking into consideration the likely austerity measures above, this suffering is likely to be very very long term.

    I appreciate that it requires a very courageous leader to change their position and to state the case that deaths arising from COVID-19 cannot be allowed to formulate public policy or personal freedoms in the short-medium-long term, however I call for the First Minister to do exactly that. Failure to do so will, in my opinion, lead to significant civil unrest later this year and unfortunately and almost inevitably a far higher death toll from non-COVID-19 deaths than would otherwise have been the case, and at levels which dwarf the COVID-19 deaths.

    Thanks for your time.

  • Posted by tom26 May 05, 2020 at 13:06

    giving us a clear path out of this - ireland has

  • Posted by Panjam May 05, 2020 at 13:07

    The lockdown rules have a really limited shelf life as the lockdown is going to start doing more harm than good soon. There needs to be far more realism about this generally.

    The self appointed lockdown prefects on social media are incredibly grating, as are the people who seem determined that this is going to go on for the next decade or so. A lot of folk are going to have terrible mental health problems as a result of all this and they're not helping.

    Having some sort of endgame to lockdown and a plan would help, and also more community testing, both for live cases and the antibody testing. Nowhere in Scotland seems to be doing this on any scale yet its helped to end lockdown in other countries.

    A bit more pragmatism, evidence and compassion would help people carry on with the rules, but getting hectored that its all going to go on for months and ludicrous claims that going to get a bag of chips is killing swathes of old people isn't.

  • Posted by lornski11 May 05, 2020 at 13:08

    Compliance is reducing, there are lots of people breaking the rules now. Children out playing, family barbecues, young people out in the evening. All of this adds to frustration for those people who are trying to follow the rules. I think things need to be eased a little to allow people to exercise more than once a day - most people are already doing that anyway.

  • Posted by David May 05, 2020 at 13:08

    Current suggestions of restricting over 70s, or easing restrictions on the population but still having them in place for the over 70s is quite simply ludicrous. Plenty of over 70s are perfectly fit and well.

  • Posted by Fifewifey May 05, 2020 at 13:09

    I think it's far too early to lift restrictions and the only way to get people to comply is to Police it further and impose heavier fines.

  • Posted by Mosmith May 05, 2020 at 13:10

    Remove clampdowns/petty restrictions which are not illegal in terms of the regulations eg what is wrong with sunning in the park if you don’t have a garden or driving 2 or 3 miles to a park or beach for exercise or exercising more than once a day. The key issue is that you keep your distance from others.

  • Posted by Lesley May 05, 2020 at 13:11

    Restrictions should be lifted as quickly as possible for those not in vulnerable groups. This will allow business and schools to reopen, helping the economy to recover and boosting people's wellbeing. Resources can then be targeted to protect the vulnerable better.

  • Posted by Plymo May 05, 2020 at 13:12

    Making sure the messaging actually reflects what is really in the law.
    E.G. shopping "for essentials only" or exercise "once a day" are not actually in the actual regulations. This should be clearer it's only advice, not law.

  • Posted by Bob84 May 05, 2020 at 13:14

    I am supposed to be a key worker and have waited 6 weeks to see my girlfriend while your dreadful government is allowing drug addicts and alcoholics around the streets and others get 80 percent wages to sit about garndens drinking everyday without anything done and yet it is me that is breaking a law to visit my own girlfriend

  • Posted by gdr1852 May 05, 2020 at 13:17

    Provide more clarity on infection rates in a) hospital environments b) care homes and c) the wider community. If public suspects rightly or wrongly that infection rates outside of the NHS and care homes is diminishing, there may be more temptation to ignore some aspects of lockdown. Risk needs to be properly communicated.

  • Posted by democrat May 05, 2020 at 13:20

    Golf is a naturally social distancing sport, re-instating social Golf would cause no health risk if handled properly, and would lift spirits of many, RoI going down this path shortly.

    Would show people we are getting ready to open for (restricted) business.

  • Posted by Ailiebaillie May 05, 2020 at 13:21

    As far as I can see many people are not adhering to the social distancing guidance. I see several people just walk right past each other and supermarkets are often chaos with rules not enforced within supermarkets, you queue outside and then it is basically a free for all inside. I’m sorry to say that people are already relaxing their poor adherence to this as if they don’t understand the severity.

    We need a longer period of the measures that we currently have in place.

  • Posted by Thalie May 05, 2020 at 13:22

    Having an end in sight for some of the social restrictions or something to look forward to with an approximate date would help greatly.

  • Posted by domusoban May 05, 2020 at 13:25

    Now surely is the time to reveal a cast iron plan, no ifs or buts. Appreciate the timing of implementation of the plan may be subject to science but suggest taking a leaf out of Irelands book would help greatly. People are starting to really crack under this uncertainty and businesses are facing catastrophic consequences which this uncertainty is not helping in any way.

    If we could clearly see a plan and a way out and a process to get there I think many would breathe easier.

  • Posted by Clayton41 May 05, 2020 at 13:26

    Restrictions should remain until at least end May --any changes MUST be coordinated with the whole of the UK .

  • Posted by sandiegee May 05, 2020 at 13:27

    Vulnerable people also have to have a clear path put in place. We cannot be expected to just wait for a vaccine to be developed whilst everyone else is able to meet with family/friends or even go for a walk on their own. A lot of vulnerable people could go outside for some fresh air and a walk as long as they social distance as not everyone has a garden
    The risk of not including vulnerable people in the general plans is that there could be a huge spike when they are eventually released from lockdown

  • Posted by Hgbrooking May 05, 2020 at 13:28

    Although it is very important to adhere to restrictions for safety, I think most fit and healthy over 70’s are sensible and can take responsibility for their own health and safety.

    I think a good idea would be to allow them to have one member of their family visit in the garden and if they were to keep the two metres distance it would improve their quality of life.

    I do not think over 70’s should be discriminated against. Ageism is already a problem in some areas of society.

    Many people over 70 are used to mixing with groups of all ages and are not all frail. This would give them a chance to see a family member and especially if living alone would relieve the loneliness as they don’t all want to join old age groups on line.

    Face time is nice but we all need human company!

  • Posted by jaclen May 05, 2020 at 13:29

    I think Care at Home will be the next peak in this crisis, multiple house visits, little or no PPE. Shifts to be covered so introducing other staff to houses which have been sheltered using a core team !
    I think if you are going in and out peoples homes to give care, do their shopping, collect medication this needs to stop. It should be care only. You should be stopped from going anywhere else and systems put in place to provide supplies and goods for the cared for at home and the carers so it is work then home only for the Carers.

  • Posted by jamezon May 05, 2020 at 13:29

    Compliance appears to be middling at best. This starts a domino effect of 'he's doing it' or a trivializing of non-compliance. If people require 'help' they should be contacting the relevant bodies themselves, not breaching the rules and justifying it after the fact.

    The timid approach of 'fines' as a universal treatment is unhelpful, likens the offence to bad parking or littering, when it is a serious matterof public health.

  • Posted by ProtestTheHero May 05, 2020 at 13:31

    Social bubbles and unlimited exercise (including park car parks and playparks reopening) would help to ensure greater adherence with other aspects of the lockdown, but the current restrictions are too onerous six weeks into lockdown. People need some small improvements to their quality of life to justify wider restrictions on their lives and livelihoods.

  • Posted by adirondacks May 05, 2020 at 13:34

    Make Masks mandatory, it wont stop you getting Covid-19 but it will help reduce transmission. allow small groups - 5 at first then increase if infection rate stays low, open garden centres with social distancing to encourage people to stay home and do their gardens, offer incentives for those in small flats and multi-generational housing an opportunity to go to parks at specific times, to get fresh air and feel they are getting some respite. Open outdoor drive in cinemas where social distancing can be maintained, get sports playing behind closed doors but with TV paying for the right to broadcast.

    open outdoor pubs in time where people can sit at socially distanced tables, make sure there are buses available to move people around (masks and 25% Capacity)

    Keep office workers working from home, unless they need to be there for which would include the need for social interaction and for physical safety.

    Set out times for people to travel where they have to keep occupancy on trains and buses at 25% and lower

    parking needs to be bookable to allow distance between cars

  • Posted by Johnmdfi May 05, 2020 at 13:35

    What is the thinking behind the singling out of over 70’s. I am over the limit, very fit, take no medication, don’t smoke and regularly walk up to 5 miles, so I am I really at more risk than a 50 year old who is unfit and smokes?

  • Posted by steviet1008 May 05, 2020 at 13:37

    If some of the other ideas are implemented, such as allowing appropriate golf, tennis, cycling,short car journeys, limited family visits, then suggest people will find it easier to comply with ongoing stay at home advice for longer, especially if 14 day isolation is required one or multiple times due to TTI.

  • Posted by Coia May 05, 2020 at 13:40

    Clamp down on the many individuals & households already flouting the lockdown. Not enough is being done to discourage this behaviour. Then set out a clear plan.
    Because at the moment there will be lots of asymptotic idiots that will be let loose on the general population that is adhering to the lockdown.

  • Posted by alogan May 05, 2020 at 13:45

    Offering a little bit of hope! Whilst we understand the need to keep reiterating the current message, families need the reassurance that there is something worthwhile coming next and some indication of when the current restrictions might begin to be adjusted. It is not enough to keep saying 'not yet!'

  • Posted by Alex2005 May 05, 2020 at 13:52

    Setting out a clear plan on lifting the lockdown is essential, and we should follow UK guidance on this as all 4 nations need to come out of this together or we will find confusion on what we can and cannot do. We could find a situation where England is told you can do this or that and in Scotland being told no you can’t. Four nations must come out of this together.

  • Posted by lesleyw85 May 05, 2020 at 13:53

    When it comes to lifting of any restrictions, the schools going back and businesses reopening need to go hand in hand - how can you expect parents to work (even from home) without childcare provisions?
    Also, I agree with other comments regarding the realistic setting of goals for the public. As we go into week 7 of this with no end in sight, it is starting to have such a negative impact on wellbeing - especially for young children who don't totally understand and are now really struggling with being confined to a house and allowed out once a day.
    I fully support the FM's thinking in terms of the longer term implications of this virus and surpressing it I just feel there needs to be more outcomes for us.

  • Posted by ediken May 05, 2020 at 13:56

    Fully support current restrictions. My wife had type 2 diabetes, controlled by diet only - no drugs. Her numbers would technically make her not diabetic. In terms of the risk she is running, aged 61 it is quite hard to assess the risk. Diabetes is a vulnerability but there are obviously lots of degrees of this condition. I guess it’s a bit like the aged 70 cut off. Is someone really fine at 69 years, 364 days, but then vulnerable the next day?
    I think a bit more granularity on the exact risk factors would help individuals make more informed risk based decisions. At the moment, it feels like my wife will probably ignore any relaxations because of her perception of the remaining level of risk.

  • Posted by Alisonc May 05, 2020 at 14:03

    the more business that are reopening are causing more people to break lockdown, we have come this far, surely we need to stay in Lockdown, close all non essential business to discourage people from going out, to allow us to come out of this.

    Maybe allow lone outdoor workers to work, where they are not coming in contact with people.

    Regarding schools, there is mention of primary schools reopening, how do you stop the children from playing with there friends.

  • Posted by PETERMEI77 May 05, 2020 at 14:15

    TTI has to be in place & fully tested before any loosening of the lockdown is considered. There is no point in going through what we have already been through to open the floodgates to try & restart the economy too early. It is important to protect the vulnerable in our society & also all front line NHS/care workers. A move to reopen too quickly would be a disaster. The Scottish government has appeared to get most things right & have been a lot better at explaining their policies on fighting the virus than the UK government. This clearer communication has too continue & get even better if possible so that everyone understands where we are at.

  • Posted by Annette2403 May 05, 2020 at 14:19

    until numbers reduce stay in lockdown however allow people to travel for exercise : days out picnic as long as they socially distance within a 20 ? Mile radius and stay within their households
    Allow businesses that can socially distance to open

  • Posted by fraser May 05, 2020 at 14:21

    I note with some confusion that the death toll in Sweden / head of population is much less than that of the UK. It is not the rules of the lockdown per se that are effective more than the spirit of our actions. There are many more effective measures that could be taken than those currently in place. I live in a relatively small town - where the biggest danger is infection entering the community from outside. There needs to be more freedom locally and a return to work where possible to get the economy moving again. The real culture shift has to be the restriction interaction out with your personal "bubble". The virus is not going to make its way into a community on its own, it will take some cyclist who cycled in from Glasgow, then goes into my local store to buy something to make it happen. for that to change we need to accept that locally community interaction is necessary and dare I say vital, but if we can stop interaction between communities it will be slowed considerably. I think the NHS app will be highly effective.

  • Posted by stukni May 05, 2020 at 14:25

    I think social distancing measures like the 2m rule and wearing a mask when in contact with non household members is the best way to protect the wider population, while allowing folks to carry on with parts of their lives. This would be a sensible way of allowing those who want to return to work etc. do so while still being protected but they are free to interact with the outside world without fear or feeling guilty for doing so. Others who want to stay isolated for their own reason can continue to isolate as their own choice.

    However, the biggest issue for returning to work is getting the kids back to school - with two primary age kids, a Uni professional and a secondary teacher in our household it would be impossible for for Uni professional to continue working from home if the teacher was teaching classes but our kids were still off primary school. It is also impossible to enforce social distancing within a school situation, the suggestion is laughable to any teacher. However, this has to be balanced against getting the wider workforce back to work, which is only possible once the kids are back at school.

  • Posted by Kenwayt May 05, 2020 at 14:35

    Having read over many of the comments thus far there is a trend emerging to say we need more clarity. I believe this common sense approach taken by the Scottish Government driven via the true leadership displayed by the First Minister is an excellent conduit for debate both informing government and giving people a say in what is a complex issue to resolve. We are all living in difficult and novel times we have never experienced such a devastig pandemic in most of our lifetimes: government, scientists and the public at large are all on a steep learning curve taking our time in easing lock down must be uppermost we cannot afford a rise in infections we have all sacrificed too much too let that happen too many have died each an individual tragedy not a mere statistic. All that said we need continued openness and reflection on easing lock down right across the board which must include ease and review before going further its multidimensional and we must redouble efforts to communicate this to the public we are attempting to create a new way of living alongside a virus that is deadly and still around. The testing and tracking approach needs also to be established and seen to work before lock down is implemented otherwise more lives will be lost when they could have been saved. I will continue to contribute in the coming days having a say is important and once again well down for this launch

  • Posted by srpaterson May 05, 2020 at 14:39

    From the latest reported statistics on new infections it appears that the current lockdown has been successful everywhere but care homes. Therefore we should consider lifting restrictions gradually across general society and focus greater efforts on care homes and not hold wider society to the current restrictions because of the care home issue.

  • Posted by GlenisO May 05, 2020 at 14:40

    It still feels there needs to be more clarity about what is safe and not safe and i think this will help the public be more aware of what causes risk.

    There is no transparency around this and constantly searching for information has an impact on mental health - causes high anxiety.

    I agree with the above comment as it causes confusion when businesses are open but we are only supposed to go out for exercise and essentials

  • Posted by Carollall May 05, 2020 at 14:40

    No blanket restriction on those over a certain age staying at home provided they practice social distancing. Individual health and fitness vary and are not just related to age. The mental toll this places on older people separated from their children an grandchildren can be severe.

    My experience is that older people are far more careful about social distancing than younger ones.

    Consider reopening schools with appropriate safeguards as younger people seem least affected, with teachers social distancing from their pupils.

    Re open garden centres as gardens are a lifeline for many people.

  • Posted by thomast May 05, 2020 at 14:45

    The usual suspects in any town do not abide by the rules. We all have seen the Lockdown flouted.
    The vast majority have followed the guidelines, however I think that the end of the goodwill period is fast approaching. People will not tolerate what is basically solitary confinement much longer. We have to be trusted to take responsibility for, and care of, ourselves. If the virus is likely to make a second wave, surely keeping us in isolation now, is only putting off till tomorrow what we have today.
    Continuing health education is the best option. Give us the best of advice but let us then decide for ourselves as we get on with our lives.

  • Posted by Aa May 05, 2020 at 14:52

    Allow travel by car to a place to exercise (a reasonable distance, not hundreds of miles)
    This will reduce the numbers of people in city parks etc and allow for better distancing.

  • Posted by sarah1234 May 05, 2020 at 14:54

    We need to know the plan on how we begin to ease the lockdown.
    People who are following the rules are becoming angry and frustrated at being made to stay home, unable to work and not able to see their family or friends.
    We need to understand what the plan is and be treated like adults.

  • Posted by lmac May 05, 2020 at 14:54

    I think that a very small loosening of lockdown measures in the coming weeks would give people a bit of hope and motivation to improve compliance with the other lockdown restrictions.
    If we can go out for a walk as long as we keep 2m away from others to prevent spread, could it not be possible to meet up with another household outside in the garden/park etc and maintain the same distance. This little bit of flexibility might boost the morale of the majority who are adhering to the lockdown restrictions fully and avoid fatigue with the current situation. I have noticed neighbours already breaking restrictions and others will start to follow suit if they start to think why should I bother if others are not.

  • Posted by alileslie May 05, 2020 at 14:59

    Enable people to see small groups of people - meet in groups of up to 5 at a time. An approach closer to that in place in Sweden for example.

  • Posted by louisetaylor May 05, 2020 at 15:11

    Its really time now -as in this week to look at where the main deaths/ infections are and if that is nursing homes-then that should not stop economy sliding back w/c 11th May with restrictions for physical distancing.

    Isoalte all nursing homes and zoom in on all those-our hopsitals are empty and there are other non COVID illness' that NOW need addressing otherwise you will face another tsunami of deaths as a fallout if further strict restrictions adhered to.

    Allow smaller retail shops to open-clothes shops for example but with restrictions-
    Start to see 'life' on our streets again otherwise we face fast car racing currently out there whcih police should be looking into,

  • Posted by Margaret321 May 05, 2020 at 15:17

    My understanding is that people over 70 have weakened immune systems because of age. If that is correct, it needs to be made clear, so that healthy 70 + yr olds understand why they are being asked to stay at home.

  • Posted by mariebeaton1 May 05, 2020 at 15:18

    Lockdown rules should be eased slightly, my 8 and 5 year olds are this week showing clear signs of depression and anxiety which in turn has had a serious impact on myself and my husband. With no immediate family nearby we need a social group of friends to help us all. This is simply no longer sustainable.

  • Posted by byminutes May 05, 2020 at 15:19

    The only consistent social distant I have seen since lockdown is the external queuing at stores. Other than that it's a free for all. Groups visiting, squeezing past on paths, cyclists riding up and close to pass, people driving out of area and then walking for hours for pleasure. To get us out of this there has to be more severe penalties, a more restrictive lockdown for a short sharp effort to break the cycle. And definitive decisions on whether face coverings should be worn outside.

  • Posted by JustAthought May 05, 2020 at 15:20

    Good judgement, evaluation of the scientific advice and an element of risk mitigation is undoubtedly required during the management of this crisis. Not to mention the pending economic cliff edge that we are sprinting towards. So what isn’t helpful is the continued lack of detail published behind the Scot Gov roadmap. Sharing informative details and actions will influence people to remain compliant with the guidance and instruction necessary to prevent escalation of the virus. Too much uncertainty with regards to future planning and implementation of the plan seriously undermines the progress made thus far. Across the country, Signs that the public are loosing faith in the current strategy are clear to see. Different messages from the UK & devolved administrations are causing confusion, even though the guidance remains unchanged. A coordinated response is essential. As opposed to separate Scot Gov briefings a representative should be participating in every UK Gov daily briefing.

  • Posted by Finlay May 05, 2020 at 15:27

    I originally trained as a bacteriologist, but that was many years ago and I have not practiced for a long time; I therefore don't feel qualified to comment on virology.
    The raw data we have at the moment is incomplete and extremely complex, I was never great at statistics and so really don't feel qualified to comment on trends in death rates.
    If I were more knowledgeable about either of the above, I would feel more competent to comment on pandemics, but I'm not so I won't.
    What I am confident about is that we cannot cure disease by plebiscite.

  • Posted by jh24 May 05, 2020 at 15:30

    As lockdown is relaxed the fines imposed should be much higher for breaking the relaxed restrictions.

  • Posted by richardps May 05, 2020 at 15:31

    Certain activities should be allowed from now on. Identifying those activities which allow both a social distance (as we have done in supermarkets) and good hygiene practices. Also, our physical health helps fight Covid19 so gyms and fitness centres need to figure out a way of demonstrating high hygiene and distancing standards. Perhaps followed by inspections to ensure this. Gyms and fitness will be vital to keeping our nation healthy to fight this disease.

  • Posted by Fifer72 May 05, 2020 at 15:33

    We need to start relaxing restrictions, otherwise the already increasing lockdown flouting will increase. Once it starts to gather momentum, the government have lost all authority.

    Start relaxing, soon.

  • Posted by sciuro May 05, 2020 at 15:36

    i think the really key thing is keeping social distancing rules while beginning to relax some of the other restrictions.

    extending households to "bubbles" is all very well, but people will have different ideas of who's in their "bubble" - parents, school friends, neighbours - and there will be good reasons for all of these people being in your bubble. but in a household of four, that becomes a very stretchy bubble.

    on the other hand - permitting meeting people outside your household, outside, provided the 2m distance is maintained (and remember to keep washing your hands!) - opens up a lot of avenues for activities helping with our mental health and ability to cope with this - particularly through the summer.

  • Posted by blairvilla May 05, 2020 at 15:37

    Retain the lockdown as it is for now until the data and evidence show that we are well under the R of 1

  • Posted by lggl May 05, 2020 at 15:38

    Phased release of lockdown is now imperative to avoid not only the growing damage of the consequences from continuing , but also to avoid a complete breakdown of compliance with restrictions.

  • Posted by wkd4 May 05, 2020 at 15:39

    Very frustrating seeing people blatantly flouting the regulations whilst others are suffering financially and emotionally to stick to them. Nothing being done.

  • Posted by holyroodcrows May 05, 2020 at 15:46

    Seeing more cars in the road and more people gathering in groups in the park. Less social distancing even walking past on another. I appreciate everything the FM has said and done but i fear only another surge in cases even before this lockdown is done will get it through to people why these measures are in place. Please continue to close car parks and create more space for pedestrians to safely socially distance. Keep repeating that people should not be driving great distances to exercise. Encourage mask wearing.

  • Posted by Suze1 May 05, 2020 at 15:53

    It would help people to comply with the lockdown restrictions if they can see sense in them based on the principles, rather than strict rules and be able to make adult choices as to what will be the least risk course of action.

    The minority of people who didn't get this at first were used to judge and restrict us all.

  • Posted by DMacDonald May 05, 2020 at 16:10

    Please consider reducing the restrictions, even a little. People have on the whole, been really good at adhering to the restrictions and after 6 weeks need to feel like their efforts are making a difference. Hope is a very powerful thing so please give the people something, even some small freedoms back, so that they feel like they're making a difference. They are also then much more likely to follow the new, slightly reduced restrictions.

    If the government make no changes, people will be forced to make their own judgements instead which will have much greater variability in behaviour than if you simply make a few small changes. The mental health implications of lockdown are going to run on for a very long time, so please consider the long-term as well as the short-term health issues.

  • Posted by Whisk3y May 05, 2020 at 16:18

    Allowing non essential shops to reopen if they wish would help

  • Posted by lindadoune May 05, 2020 at 16:21

    as far as I can see the main problem is a lot of people just don't get the social distancing concept: dont seem to understand what 2 meteres are. Also, some people seem to think the rules dont apply to them and dont realise that by breaking the rules they ultimately put lots of people in danger.

  • Posted by mklayne May 05, 2020 at 16:21

    Allow small social bubbles - even just one or two other households. It might mean that there's a chain effect, but it'd be traceable. People are doing this sort of thing already because they're struggling with childcare, etc - legitimising it will make it easier to trace if someone is sick.

  • Posted by Thomas54 May 05, 2020 at 16:39

    We need a clear plan with some real hope, including time with small family groups especially grandchildren, and effective dialogue with our politicians who seem to be at home doing very little. They should be communicating with their own constituents to feed back and forth with central government

  • Posted by DrT May 05, 2020 at 16:48

    Continued transparency in Government decision-making. It is better to continue with restrictions for a few more weeks to get the ‘r’ value well below one before beginning to ease restrictions. The police should take a firm but fair approach to ensuring continued safe social distancing and other measures to achieve this. We have come this far with restrictions, so a few more weeks will be manageable and will be well worth it at the end of the day.

  • Posted by Clairesmith1982 May 05, 2020 at 16:57

    There are still too many people flouting the rules . I feel that as soon as restrictions are eased (not that they are particularly strict to begin with) , people will disregard the rules even more . Give them an inch , they’ll take a mile .

  • Posted by Qwe123 May 05, 2020 at 16:58

    I think the Irish approach of laying out, in advance, what will be lifted when would improve compliance. its easier to stick with the rules when there is something tangible to look forward to.

    I think it’s reasonable not to give specific dates, but clarity on conditions would help (eg when new cases are lower than 100/day or when deaths are lower than 10/day).

  • Posted by lggl May 05, 2020 at 16:59

    the best way to ensure compliance is to treat people as adults. The current insistence on no easing up, nor even a pathway, will very shortly lead to reduced compliance and as soon as that starts non-compliance will increase. Govt would be far better identifying which measures are really key and focus on those, easing up on the rest now and trusting common sense of the country too.

  • Posted by catalyst May 05, 2020 at 17:03

    Since this pandemic took effect we have been told that the symptoms are a high temperature and a new or continuous cough and that has not changed. However, on the WHO website, a wide variety of other symptoms have been reported including; unexplained aches and pains, stomach upsets (nausea and diahorea), sore throat, headaches, unexplained rash and a running nose. It has also been reported that not everyone who has tested positive for Covid-19 displays the symptoms of high temperature and continuous or new cough. the WHO website does not state who has reported these symptoms but I believe it will have come from those who have received a positive diagnosis for Covid-19. Many of these symptoms could be attributable to many other common and far less life threatening conditions that are contactable throughout a normal year. However, without a full understanding of the full range of symptoms and their severity that are a clear indicator of potential infection, those who have had any of these other symptoms (in varying degrees of severity) may indeed be infected without realising it, not seeking any medical advice, not self-isolating for the recommended timescales and as such, currently even if adhering to the current restrictions and social distancing guidelines be in a position to continue spreading the disease. Until more is known and understood about the symptoms, the widespread communication of this and a prolonged and sustained reduction in the R number, I believe any restrictions on lockdown need to be withheld.

  • Posted by PaulB1987 May 05, 2020 at 17:15

    Allow people to meet with friends or family even in groups of 2 outdoors to go a walk or run but maintain social distancing, no visits to other households in the short term

  • Posted by rdevine May 05, 2020 at 17:16

    Since it appears Scotland doesn't have it's own modelling capability, we should be casting our net a bit wider when it comes to which model to follow. For example, on May 5th we have the First Minister stating that Denmark's decision to open schools led to an increase in R that would overwhelm our NHS, then a few hours later we have Christian Wejse of Aarhus University stating that in fact "nothing much happened" and that opening schools was the correct decision. If the UK Imperial College model is being relied on by Scotland then that could account for the decision, but this is the model that predicted that Sweden would have an R-value of around 3 at this stage. In fact, on May 4th, the Swedish R value was 0.85 - only marginally above the UK value and achieved without a strict lock-down.

    The extreme options in a situation like this are obviously (a) complete lock-down and (b) no controls at all. Option (b) is obviously out of the question and option (a) is relatively simple to implement. It requires a bit more nous to find an optimum between those extremes and our current modelling doesn't appear to be up to the task.

  • Posted by jimmcbride May 05, 2020 at 18:02

    Whilst the First Minister is always keen to tell us that the Covid-19 propagation factor 'R' is currently in the range 0<R<1, the government either won't or can't tell us the order of significance of the environments for contagion in Scotland. Surely this must be established as the input to any strategy for lifting the lockdown.

    When someone is tested positive for Covid-19, I would hope they are quizzed (assuming in adequate mental health) as to what their recent social environment was, and that this information is recorded on a national database.

    This should not to be confused with the TTIS process which is personal rather than environmental.

    Questions would typically relate to estimated location of contagion eg.
    Family member at home : Healthcarecare visitor at home: In a care home: GP surgery: Supermarket: Chemist: Public transport: Exercise/walk in fresh air.....and maybe more.

    If we can determine the environmental contagion sources for Scottish cities, perhaps there is a valuable clue to lockdown release there.

  • Posted by MBond999 May 05, 2020 at 18:26

    There are still too many people flouting the current lockdown rules. These people are living their lives as normal and as we all know , current life is not normal. The rules need tightened or there needs to be a proper outlet to report the most persisting offenders.

  • Posted by ABCD1234 May 05, 2020 at 18:32

    Allow people to meet with a small group of friends or family but only outdoors to go for a walk or run during daily exercise and maintain social distancing. Alternatively meet and speak through windows of cars or houses as a screen and maintaining social distancing.
    No visits to other households yet, including tradesmen unless an emergency.
    No businesses reopening yet.
    We need a robust plan to protect the shielding population, especially where they live with others who are going out to work or may start going out if lockdown is relaxed for example supple all people shielding with daily FFP3 masks.
    Everyone should wear and be able to buy masks at reasonable prices prioritising FFP3 masks for NHS, care homes, emergency services and the shielding population.

  • Posted by jaggy1971 May 05, 2020 at 18:46

    There is clear evidence of public resolve weakening. Surely some outdoor pursuits where social distancing and personal hygiene can easily be maintained (such as golf, bowls and tennis) can be reinstated with clear guidelines that should be adhered to? The positive impact on general health and mental wellbeing will far outweigh the risks of the public ‘taking things into their own hands’ as resolve weakens. By loosening some restrictions that continue to comply with current guidelines (as above) will show the public that we are moving in the right direction and hopefully slow the obvious increase in members of the public starting to flout the regulations out of sheer frustration.

  • Posted by jenny333 May 05, 2020 at 18:51

    The government is basically saying, stay away from other people, and wash your hands.
    As it is likely the majority of people would ignore this, they have to enforce it.
    This is to prevent, at a guess, 2% of the population dying. 1,300000. And hospitals would definitely
    not cope.

  • Posted by concernedparentandworker May 05, 2020 at 18:55

    Let those who are vulnerable continue to shield themselves, let the rest of us get on with it.

  • Posted by RossK May 05, 2020 at 18:55

    I think the vast majority of people follow the lockdown restrictions very closely. All our friends and family do and would have almost zero chance of picking up the virus under the way we currently live.
    I think the problem is that there does not seem to be clarity on how people are getting infected - what are the situations that infections are coming from? and that should be where the focus of restrictions should be.

    I think that people get highly frustrated about being told to limit travel or exercise time when in fact the duration of exercise (in a vast open park) has no bearing whatsoever on COVID infection. The key is maintaining social distancing when you are out. I know some older people who drive a couple of miles to go to a park for a walk - where is the problem in that - there is none yet this sort of behaviour gets vilified as if it were a serious issue - it is not.

    So don't trivialise the restrictions - make sure the restrictions are relevant and people can directly see how they will reduce infections and they will largely abide.

  • Posted by nltcthgc May 05, 2020 at 19:20

    From my experience, most people do seem to be following the current restrictions.
    Telling the truth about the very low risk the virus poses to the vast majority of people and relaxing the current lockdown restrictions would be a much better way to regain the trust of the general population, rather than trying to get more to comply with restrictions which can never be proven one way or another to have been effective.

  • Posted by MBond999 May 05, 2020 at 19:28

    Tax Firms/Drivers especially in the Cumbernauld Area are flouting the rules. They are ferrying teenagers and certain groups of friends from house to house numerous times daily. I fear for the legitimate taxi users , and of course the health workers/carers that are also using these taxis. I have witnessed this happening many times and at no time time was the taxi cleaned or disinfected.
    Because of incidents like this I think that there will be a second more severe wave.

  • Posted by AngeMcL May 05, 2020 at 19:49

    Social bubble would be excellent for mental health reasons family is pretty important and most people see there family on a weekly basis so allowing that would be beneficial after this length of time with no contact but by phone.
    I think fines must be given now for those who sunbathe in park or gather outside to drink no more warnings just straight up fine otherwise it will just continue, but given the chance to have small social bubble so some contact with nearest and dearest would help people cope for a bit longer and not perhaps not disregard the social distancing on mass scale.

  • Posted by adnil May 05, 2020 at 20:12

    The social bubble of 10 (for example) people idea is open to confusion, misinterpretation and potential overlapping of bubbles creating a chain. A simpler idea would be 2 household units combining, similar to the Canadian approach.

  • Posted by Raven765 May 05, 2020 at 20:28

    It is too early to come out of lockdown. Harsher penalties should be imposed on those who flout the rules. It's life and death. I do agree with the comment above about just 2 households combining if a bubble is to be created. It needs firm rules, or everyone's bubble may grow and overlap. People need to stop "do-gooding" - offering cakes at the end of their drives, book swaps, pics for kids to colour in, gifts left for neighbours- all non-essential potential ways of transferring the virus. Killing people with kindness (and stupidity), quite literally. We have a good climate, TV and Internet, it's not difficult to just stay home.

  • Posted by deenubder May 05, 2020 at 20:30

    1 - A consequence of the current restrictions is that those sleeping on the streets were put into temporary housing. However, while walking my dog , I have noticed that in the day, there are homeless people still on the streets (asking for change, drinking, smoking, or wandering the streets). The measures seem to be half baked (in Edinburgh). Longer terms solutions need to be considered and put in place.

    2 - There has been a strong message from SG to ensure and maintain improved hygiene measures. However, the pavements and associated green areas and railings remain uncleaned. How will these be cleaned (or disinfected) in future and routinely? Similarly, the parks remain unmaintained.

    3 - Yes, we can go out for essentials and exercise. However, pavements and roads need re-designing to allow for spaces between runners, walkers, cyclists, and drivers. Most people are respective of the distancing restrictions. However, city planning needs to re-consider these spaces for the longer term.

    4 - Closure of businesses. Where the licensing rules have been lightened to help some businesses extend or move their business online, please consider extending this to the future (e.g. for catering businesses).

  • Posted by IV316 May 05, 2020 at 20:35

    The lock down has never been properly enforced and all this premature talk of easing restrictions is dangerous.

    It's not peaked up here yet, as is becoming increasingly apparent, and yet more and more people are out and about, mixing and asking when the beauty salons and hairdressers will be open - it's utter madness which is being fueled by people's own selfish 'wants'.

    Your perm or round of golf is not worth killing someone for.

  • Posted by gac555 May 05, 2020 at 20:41

    What we need in Scotland is a clear concise plan of how we exit the lockdown as other countries have done. Today's government document is 27 pages long, is full of corporate speak and doesn't provide the detail the public needs to see a way out of this. Compliance with the current measures will continue to decline until there is more certainty around the steps required to take us out of this. The government needs to be much more specific about how businesses etc. will need to operate going forward. It's appreciated that putting exact timescales on this may be difficult just now but other aspects of exiting the lockdown can be made much clearer.

  • Posted by tilly_f May 05, 2020 at 20:45

    Apply an over-riding principle...eg social distancing, then ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE COMMON SENSE

  • Posted by andyhynds May 05, 2020 at 20:50

    In my humble opinion I feel that the lock down should remain for many as lives do matter. In the history we have had many pandemics or epidemics. The Asian flu in the 50's did damage to a nation and they did not have the fall back we have now. We have governments that are looking to protect our futures, and without members of skilled trades lost to illness and death. I may suggest that we brave it out a bit more and then come out when we are at a safer state. I am lucky as I had many years and the family confined with young children are suffering as with others that are being shielded. Bare with it for several more months and we will be able to return to normality with weakness but a strength to build our great country into a future suitable for the next 100 years.

  • Posted by TiMoMac May 05, 2020 at 21:21

    A clear detailed plan, based on fact, with a detailed timetable. That way even if we don't like or agree with the content we can make plans so that we can live with it.

    The plan needs to be proportionate, shifting the emphasis to testing, shielding and border management. Measures we follow have to be backed by strong evidence that they work. The UK's lockdown is not a success story.

    Avoid flimsy flip-flop ideas on face-masks and 2 meter social distancing. Focus on measures that mobilise communities and the economy to advance proactively and confidently.

    Ensure that the measures are underpinned by the values of the kind of Scotland we want to live in long into the future. Kind, caring and compassionate. Advancing the green economy, our technology sector, our tourism, our natural habitat. How are we going to revive our High Streets in ways that build stronger communities? How do we retain and revive our businesses of all sizes and sectors, to advance the benefits we are learning from this experience? How do we transform education system to a more flexible and responsive range of services, which it is proving it do. How do we get people back into employment and raise working conditions? How do we reduce our use of cars and air travel? How do we build a better network of cycle paths and walkways?

    There are so many forward thinking progressive topics we could be raising at the moment that go far beyond covering up to go out.

  • Posted by Gregor May 05, 2020 at 21:30

    “Captain Hindsight’s “ advice...all governments should have asked the vulnerable to shield themselves with medical and financial support provided (far cheaper than furloughing)...
    “Captain Foresight’s” advice...all governments should concentrate resources on that same group and “release” the 98.5% of the population to get on with life, work and love.
    History will prove this was the only possible strategy till vaccine arrives.

  • Posted by Ladygrinningsoul May 05, 2020 at 21:45

    I am comfortable keeping two metres apart when outside despite a lot of people seemingly unaware of how far that is, I spend most of the time walking on the road. Whenever restrictions ease, I can see walking on the road will become more difficult (it is already more problematic as traffic has increased) as will walking on the pavements as a lot of walkways are very narrow. Could cities close some roads to all but essential traffic such as emergency/ public transport/ delivery vehicles? As we're probably in the 'new normal', whatever that may look like for a very, very long time.

  • Posted by eroomxul May 05, 2020 at 22:07

    The key to ensuring safety following lockdown is understanding what is happening with the disease in the community. This is entirely dependent on having a comprehensive testing strategy in place designed to give us answers to these vital questions. Without this it is just guesswork.
    The ideal place to test and trace is in Skye. If you can't work out how the outbreak in Portree arrived and spread there is no hope of controlling it on the mainland.

  • Posted by Stephaniekeachie May 05, 2020 at 22:19

    People should be allowed to social distance and be treated as adults whilst those who are over 65 or who have medical issues need to be shielded.

  • Posted by ChrisS May 05, 2020 at 22:24

    People should be allowed more autonomy when interpreting the rules, so that good sense can prevail and individual circumstances can be accommodated. For example my partner cannot walk far and cannot leave our property without his car. Using his wheelchair locally is difficult because of hilly terrain. He would like to drive a short distance from home for a change of scenery. Alternatively drive to a locality where the ground is level enough for him to take exercise. We live in open countryside with few people around it is easy to comply with social distancing measures in our neighbourhood. A relaxation of the present prescriptive approach would, I believe, lead to sensible compliance by most people with a broad set of rules, which are open to interpretation.

  • Posted by Debrastorr May 05, 2020 at 22:35

    Minor differences between Guidance in the 4 nations and off the cuff interpretations of the Guidance by various figures has been unhelpful.

    I’m not a fan of Ireland 2km now 5km limit from people’s home for exercise but at least it’s clear. And yes, we need to avoid petty nonsense like tape stopping people sitting on benches. Many people can’t exercise continuously and need a break. So long as 2m is maintainecand they take responsibility for sanitiser, it’s fine.

  • Posted by Babscox22 May 05, 2020 at 22:44

    Like others I appreciate the way the FM and other delegates present and treat this population as adults and equals. To continue this trust the FM has to continue to be honest but she must be very clear on WHAT the plan is, WHY this is the case but WHEN we will see change even if this is estimated.

  • Posted by crglkhrt May 05, 2020 at 22:45

    Ease them.

  • Posted by CEH3 May 06, 2020 at 00:00

    It is too early to lift restrictions but we must also look to get the economy restarted. Tax breaks for people who buy office equipment in order to be able to work more efficiently, even zero rate vat would work. Centralised online schooling forS1 and above this point up greater capacity for Nursery teaching and P1 and above.

  • Posted by TonyG77 May 06, 2020 at 00:39

    If restrictions are lifted slightly would families be allowed to see each other if they are in a small group and only see this group only. No social contact with friends but purely close family.

  • Posted by Podry May 06, 2020 at 00:46

    The FM and Scot. Gvt. response to this crisis has been clear and respectful, I am glad to have had this leadership here in Scotland. I see a number of comments about the restrictions being unnecessarily restrictive or excessive and stating only X number of deaths have happened which ‘proves’ this. In fact the number of deaths (there is no acceptable number) has been kept to this level due to the very restrictions being criticised. I am pleased that, to date, we have not needed to use the amazing resource of the Louisa Jordan Hospital; this is why we were in ‘lockdown’, it has worked. The number of people experiencing serious illness & requiring hospital treatment was kept within the capacity of our NHS. In relation to the current situation, I too am aware of an increase in the traffic on the roads and the footfall in the streets (I am a community based nurse) so it appears that the public are losing the will to stay indoors... or is it that they have now become more used to the guidelines and are applying them as they return to some level of normality? That is how I think we can successfully move towards fewer restrictions and I think basically that is what has been set out in the decision making consultation paper i.e. these are the challenges, these are the things that reduce the risk, this is how we change work/school/leisure places to facilitate risk reduction & then, armed with this knowledge, the public can begin to go about their business within the required restrictions. The restrictions may be required again for a time all over Scotland or in certain communities dependent on how spread of the virus happens. Like with all elements of public life there are always those who don’t quite follow the rules as they should but they are the minority and their behaviour should not be used as an excuse to do the same. Having said that, there perhaps would be a benefit to visible enforcement/questioning of those who are not following the rules. If the Scot. Gvt. do not want people travelling to the businesses that are reopening then there has to be legislative teeth to force ongoing closure. The message to the public as various retail/food outlets reopen is that ‘they wouldn’t be open if it wasn’t allowed’, so clear statements from gvt. saying these facilities do not represent essential activities & should not be accessed by the public would be helpful, coupled with this direct contact by Gvt. or Police with these businesses would improve compliance. Anyway, that is my tuppence worth. Keep up the good work.

  • Posted by Brian May 06, 2020 at 01:31

    It is time to start easing the restrictions. The R value is between 0.7 and 1. The vast majority of people will continue to be sensible. Trust us. Start by letting all shops open with social distancing measured in place.

    Reopen building sites again with appropriate measures in place.

    Allow travel to see family however far away they are. People in the main are sensible. If you want adult conversations, treat us like adults.

    Larger companies are typically managing remote working but allow them a phased start up with appropriate hygiene measures.

    The days of shaking hands are gone. We understand that.

    Bottom line. TRUST US. Most people will do the right thing

  • Posted by JackieKemp May 06, 2020 at 02:00

    This is not really a plan - too vague. The report says community transmission is lower than in care homes and hospitals. The care home/ hospital nexus is much less impacted by the lockdown. I think the gains in terms of community transmission of continued lockdown will become increasingly marginal. The lockdown may well start to come unstuck. People can see the peak was reached weeks ago and the NHS is not overwhelmed. As we come out of lockdown, I think it's not realistic to emulate getting to a situation like S Korea in the short term. People probably won't download the app - adoption of this kind of technology is almost always patchy. People may not be comfortable with this level of surveillance. It probably won't be possible to eradicate the virus in the UK in the immediate future. Whether we come out of lockdown in three weeks or six, cases will likely rise at that point. Three weeks won't make much difference. The example of Sweden where the country remains open yet the R number is 0.85 is one we should look carefully at. I think this plan is way too slow and it looks as if the Government is drifting. Ireland's plan looks cautious but reasonable and allows people to plan.

  • Posted by Harrysmammy May 06, 2020 at 04:19

    I have been in solitary confinement for nearly 7 weeks, but 5 families in my street have not complied with the lockdown for one single day. They have friends and family come and go on a daily basis, they meet up in each other’s gardens every morning and do not maintain social distancing. You can’t make them comply, anymore than you could make them get a job. Some people are just too thick to see sense

  • Posted by Stephaniekeachie May 06, 2020 at 07:05

    A news paper article this morning shows that less than 400
    Under 45s has died of covid19. I largely agree with Gordon further up the thread and some of the other posters there needs to be more transparency on the coming out of lock down process. We need to get people back working so why not start with those who looking at the stats do not to have been as badly affected. I fear when all this is over and we look back that the lockdown was going to be the wrong thing to do. Unfortunately it won’t be us living with the consequences it will be our children.

  • Posted by pblackburn604 May 06, 2020 at 07:46

    The basic point I want to make is that the lockdown strategy is coming at too high a price for the benefits.
    The current lockdown strategy is inflicting massive damage on the economy, restricting personal freedoms and the social interaction of what makes people human and will have impacts on people' s health, finances and increase inequality. The lockdown might be tenable in the short term but the current strategy appears to be to wait for a vaccine to be developed which is 18 months away.
    The reason for this is to save life and yet in Scotland of the 962 deaths recorded up to the 15th April only 8 were under 45. Although we won't know the "Excess Death" ratio until later evidence suggests that most of the deaths due to coronavirus are people who would have died in the year anyway. On the other side of the equation we know that deaths will be caused by people not getting treatment, and increased deaths to mental health and an increase in poverty etc.
    We seem to have an attitude in the West that we are immortal and can live for ever, when we should be focusing on the quality of life and not quantity. If I were in my 80's I would rather have 6 months of being able to see my friends and relatives than being cooped up in isolation for 2 years.
    I am in my late 50's and am fortunate in being employed and having a garden. If I were unemployed , in my 20's and living in a flat my views would be much stronger about the inequitability of the current situation.

  • Posted by Rainbowbright May 06, 2020 at 07:47

    Being more flexible with who can meet and where. For example someone living alone, working from home and only going shopping once a week should be able to meet up with a friend in a similar situation without fear. Lonlieness can kill as much as coronavirus.
    Wearing face coverings in shops.
    Allowing immediate family who do not live together to meet up, grandparents and grandchildren have a special bond and it is heartbreaking that they are not allowed to see each other.
    Couples who do not live together and do not live with anyone else should be allowed to spend time together if risk to others is low.

  • Posted by DouglasB May 06, 2020 at 08:34

    The FM can be proud; as a population of c.50% the size of our neighbours (across the watter) in Belgium, then we have achieved a figure that equates to 20% of their losses. That's where the FM should still be slooking and taking her directions from, ie. a worst case scenario and then interpolating their gained experiences & recommendations against those here wishing on access to their golf clubs. Part of her formula has been to trust her people and that has worked admirably well. Yes there are the 10%'s, out diving, kayaking & scaling mountains, but the majority have kept cool heads and abided by the instructions. That. figure of 10% will increase with any instructions loosening the restrictions but that may be acceptable as the figures for contamination start to drop. Strongly suspect though that trusting her people & trusting her business fraternity are two separate issues; businesses will be at the forefront of misdemeanours, there is still very much a 'red-kneck' attitude prevalent amongst businesses leaders, pushing staff to their wills, requiring the tightening of instructions for PPE, etc. The people can see her concerns and her angst but this has to be tempered by the simple fact her care society needs funding, serious funding, and again people can understand that. Good luck to FM in whatever decision is reached.

  • Posted by FreeBornMike May 06, 2020 at 09:11

    Where I live in the Borders, there is little evidence of people respecting the 2m rule in shops ... even shop staff. Without doubt the greatest risk that I have of becoming infected is whilst shopping and I have to drive 20 minutes to do so. Why am I discouraged from driving 5-10 minutes to exercise where I will see almost no one and am instead encouraged to exercise about town where I am constantly dodging others ? Re-inforcement of this restriction by Forestry and Land Scotland by the closure of car parks has been a complete nonsense, in my view.

    The draft outline for ending the lockdown also focuses on people staying in their (undefined) local area. Why ? If you are looking to stop the spread of the virus, it is contact with people that should be the focus. I could drive to a beach and meet no one. Even if I did, it is easy to maintain social distancing.

    Presumably new infections now are a baseline comprised of those in care environments and those who spread the virus either despite the rules or because they are not following the rules. Since there is spare capacity in the NHS, I would have liked to have seen a very gradual easing of restrictions this week by allowing a measure that didn't necessarily involve an increase in contact between people (for example, people may leave their house for as long as (and as often as) they like to exercise - or sunbathe - whilst maintaining social distancing).

    In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I would assume that by far the greatest risk of transmission is in enclosed spaces and these should be introduced at a later stage if an increase in outdoor activities does not raise transmission rates significantly.

     

  • Posted by Chavez May 06, 2020 at 09:33

    We need to start getting back towards a Scotland where people are treated as adults and daily life isn't mental and physical torment. The current lock down measures have to change soon or there will be more and more unrest particularly as summer approaches. The R rate is now at the level we were told it needed to be. The NHS is not swamped. We need to have an element of risk management beyond that as waiting for full testing for a vaccine before any relaxation will drive morale and compliance into the ground.

  • Posted by Hilda May 06, 2020 at 09:36

    Challenges of test track is that people maybe in and out of the house/work like a peep in the gas if they keep getting texts to isolate, will make it really hard on businesses if cant rely from one day to next knowing who will be in

    is there some other way to help identify people at risk e..g use of thermometer scans before entering buildings, we know this isn't an exact science either , but if we were to try and tell everyone who had been in contact with someone who had the flu they were at risk we would have said, impossible, yet this is what we are trying to do with COVID 19

    there is a psychological campaign needed here around targeting those who aren't following the rules to see how this is about the all not the one, sadly in the West we can sometimes have a mentality of looking after number one before the collective, maybe more nudging towards caring about the collective e.g. thanks to those of you who are following the rules x more people have lived, sadly as we are still battling COVID19 x more have died, we need to be one nation caring about each other, what can you do today to inspire someone to stay at home, protect the nhs save lives so the day will come when we can ease up in restrictions without losing lives

  • Posted by Colinu2006 May 06, 2020 at 09:45

    People are already easing off on lockdown restrictions, more traffic, people in parks, queue for take away coffees, bbqs, outside parties, camper vans moving about,.. Still, holiday homes occupied. All makes a mockery if what the the supposed restrictions and increases risk to everybody. If you are going to have meaningful restrictions they need to be enforced. This does not appear to be happening and makes a mockery of those adhereing to restrictions and the NHS staff and essential workers.
    Poor observation of restrictions will only mean the death toll will be alot harder to bring down.
    BE STRONGER. It may not be very popular now but you will be thanked later. But I fear this opportunity has been lost.
     Don't Ask the population, TELL them what to do as unfortunately there will always be a small percentage who think they are above the rest of us, does not matter what part of society they come from.
    Lifting restrictions agree with immediate family and movement and with in a set radius of your primary home, 5 or 10 miles for example. Not visiting granny 200miles away.
    Restart locally by towns, then areas and regions so that local businesses can restart. Again this needs to be enforced.

  • Posted by angelseasonfive May 06, 2020 at 10:03

    Lockdown is becoming a joke.Newly opened KFC drive-through in my town queued out yesterday. Essential travel. Definitely not. From my observation, I believe there are countless incidences of lockdown being broken going under the radar. More-stringent policing is required to maintain a meaningful lockdown. Relaxation will lead to increased flouting. Protection of vulnerable' people will have to continue whilst everyone else be allowed to get back to normal daily activities with physical distancing measures in place as far as reasonably possible.

  • Posted by Djalaodbdld May 06, 2020 at 10:13

    If you are to continue with lockdown measures then they need to be properly policed. The police need to have real powers to act and an anonymous tip line needs to be set up.
    I think that continuing with a harsh lockdown is not the right path but if that is what you choose it needs to be done properly as people are taking the mick at the minute.
    If lockdown is to continue then all Takeaway food needs to be stopped, all shops except those selling food and medicine closed.
    By having this kind of halfway house where nothing has dealt changed yet Costa has opened up again you are just encouraging people to take liberties.

  • Posted by AnnaKucharska May 06, 2020 at 10:39

    The lockdown should be enforced, it’s not at the moment. It’s becoming a free for all in this seaside town at weekends.

  • Posted by wnobrien May 06, 2020 at 10:50

    There needs to be an easing for the lockdown restrictions while continuing social distancing

  • Posted by conniel May 06, 2020 at 11:13

    People may be more likely to comply with the restrictions if they can see a clear plan to gradually lift the lockdown measures and specific and measurable targets which need to be met to allow elements of the lockdown to be eased.

  • Posted by FRWood May 06, 2020 at 11:17

    A timetable for easing, and a clear sense of hope. Where has the messaging gone re this being a disease which would be experienced as a mild illness in 80% of people? Reduce fear and replace with optimism.

  • Posted by alanstrachan May 06, 2020 at 11:22

    I believe its too early to lift the lockdown, also action needs to be taken enforced on businesses that are clearly not essential that have reopened . You just have to look at the impact in the USA of opening things too early , do we really want that here

  • Posted by AMNCL0605 May 06, 2020 at 11:27

    Firstly I agree with the letter from Gordon1663. You yourself suggested you would treat us as adults so please do so. We can see from Sweden who did not lockdown that their R no is actually better than the UK. They have a population of 10 million twice that of Scotland. They have social distancing measures and yes their economy has been hit but not to the extent that ours will be.

    People are starting to lose faith in the current strategy and we can all see more traffic on the road, people going out more than once a day and this will gain momentum if people are not given some hope, strategy and specifics. Despite people 'pushing the boundaries' of the current measures, the R rate has continued to decline.

    The furlough scheme is appreciated but it can't go on indefinitely. We have already damaged the economy and a long term lockdown will cause economic chaos, mass unemployment, recession leading to depression and a whole list of mental illnesses, it will already take us another decade to recover. The travel industry will be completely obliterated for a while and so we must encourage other parts of our economy.

    In addition the Nightingale hospital has not been used. On Friday there was no ICU beds in Paisley being used by covid 19 patients. There is therefore capacity in Scotland and we are under the 'R' no of 1.

    Cancer patients and organ transplant patients are not being treated... this will cause ramifications for their future and it is not something that can continue ... it is imperative they can be treated now!

    There is no absolute scientific data that shows masks are the answer however we should be thinking of using them possibly on public transport. But let's face it none of us have been wearing them for 7 weeks whilst queuing at supermarkets and so is there any point in us trying to source them?

    We do need to look at some kind of plan of easing up the current restrictions, these can be done as you suggest in small steps. At the same time the restrictions for those in vulnerable categories should remain in place.

    Schools/Colleges/Universities - bring in those who will be sitting national exams next year only for the moment. People may think that losing 5-7 weeks teaching is nothing but I assure you it is difficult enough for any teacher to ensure students/pupils get through the curriculum's as it is without losing further classroom time. Social distancing measures can be put in place and there could be staggered days for those pupils/students. Teachers have continued to teach at hubs despite the lockdown and although I am sure many will already be primed not to go back until August, many will be relieved to start the work for those sitting national exams now!

    Social bubbles - allow us to see some (not all) members of our families but limit the nos as you yourself have suggested.

    Open the Parks so that we are all not trying to squash past each other on pavements - we need more places to exercise.

    Open some more of the shops - if we can queue outside all supermarkets, DIY stores in an orderly format, we can surely do this in other shops... this will help the economy.

    Construction work should be restarted - we can see this is working in other countries including Spain who also had some of the worst cases.

    Longer term - people who can work from home should continue to do so, however a plan has to be made for us all to be back to work. We cannot all sit on phones for 1 1/2 - 2hours to talk to banks, utility companies etc indefinitely.... eventually this will also cause chaos.

    You have after all released prisoners, it's time that you gave us a little ease up on this lockdown, only in this way will you find us willing to comply, help the economy and its future and help mental illness, anxiety and hopefully domestic abuse!

    Thank you for allowing us to comment.

  • Posted by glasgow May 06, 2020 at 11:33

    It is illogical to enforce a lockdown on people by age,i.e, over 70. Many people over 70 like me are fitter and healthier than people considerably younger.
    I realise that it is administratively simpler to use a stated age but that has no connection with reality. This is especially the case when so little help is available to the over 70's who live on their own, have no family and whose friends are not supposed to visit them. i called the Scottish Government's shelter line two weeks ago and still await contact.
    I read that the UK Government's new health App will not link with those of mainland European Governments. I also read that the Scottish Government is pursuing its own App. If these reports are true then it is madness. How are people supposed to travel within the UK and Europe without having to endure isolation in the new country for fourteen days? This needs sorted Miss Sturgeon and sooner rather than later.

  • Posted by Rabg May 06, 2020 at 11:57

    From what we have seen with Britain having the highest rates in Europe and only second behind the USA in total numbers, we have to learn the lessons of not going in a lockdown scenario sooner. Therefore coming out of the lockdown will be more damaging in the long term as the risk of a second or 3rd wave of the virus would be far higher.
    The lockdown should be extended till the end of June, so that the ‘R’ value has the best chance to come down, therefore reducing the risk of any further lockdowns in the future. If we reduce measures then before then people will naturally become more relaxed about the measures in place and the risk of further lockdowns would be inevitable. If the ‘R’ value is brought down to 0.1 or lower then it would be fair to say that we have beaten this, any higher would risk further infection and further lockdown.
    If we start to ease lockdown at the end of May then we are half heartedly beating this and not giving everybody the best chance to come out of this and resume normal life quicker.
    Short term pain for long term gain.
    If we lockdown till end of June then and the ‘R’ value is down at 0.1 or lower then we can basically resume normal life instead of prolonged agony of semi lockdown, social distancing for the rest of the year! For an extra 4-5 weeks of full lockdown is better than having another 5-6 months of a semi life that’s actually just rubbish. Children not getting the education they deserve because they are not at school as they should be, work places like the hospitality industries not being able to operate as they should.
    If we come out of lockdown end of May in stages we are just prolonging the agony of not being able to go to the pub, restaurant, work place, playing football with your friends or playing any sport with your friends.
    Why the contribution is important

    This idea is important because it’s the simplest and most effective way to beat this situation. Common sense should prevail and rushing back would in the long run just extend this period instead of beating this period and returning to a normal life.
    If we didn’t do this it would be like getting a prescription for antibiotics from your doctor and only taking half the course prescribed instead of the full course. The chance that you’ll be back at the doctors for another course of antibiotics would be inevitable. Just think about it!!!

  • Posted by staylor May 06, 2020 at 12:34

    Lifting lockdown "when it is safe to do so" is meaningless. As a basis for policy it is doing a disservice to the public. We understand there'll be a need to move on from the "save lives" message with some degree of risk acceptance. There is no zero risk option available for living with Covid19 given the broader social, economic and health consequences that now threaten to swamp the dangers from Covid19. The current proposals do little to address that, being no more than "lockdown lite". Public acceptance will have a reducing shelf life on that. The WHO suggests that the Sweden model is likely to be the "new normal", doubtless amended for as-low-as-practicable protection of high-risk groups, hard decisions over the shape of "all risks" healthcare provision, the realities of supporting it in a hollowed-out economy, high unemployment etc. These issues are already predictable so we need to see leadership on a sustainable way forward, not just "lockdown lite". POLITICIANS RAISE YOUR GAME!
                     

  • Posted by Spiderman May 06, 2020 at 12:38

    1) Overall, the Scottish government is doing a much better job of communicating with the public than Westminster - more open, more honest, less self-congratulatory, more human and more responsive to the public. However, I would like to see more honesty about the general failure throughout UK to prepare for and respond quickly enough to Covid in the first few months of this year. Everyone knows that we should have had more resources available from the outset and that we should have cut the virus out - nipped it in the bud- by testing, tracing and isolating instead of just allowing it to reach the high levels of community spread which quickly occurred. Obviously airports should have been closed apart from essential flights of supplies and repatriated people who should have been quarantined for two weeks. Everyone also recognises that the fundamental reasons for the lack of initial resources was the decade of an austerity programme which cut funding for many relevant parts of the health service, including infection control, the ignoring of the recommendations of an expert report on dealing with a future epidemic and general lack of intelligent awareness of the impending arrival and spread of the Coronavirus.
    A more honest admission would increase trust and respect for the Scottish Government’s position and therefore for its recommendations.
    2) As a scientist, I dislike the repetitive use of the phrase ‘following the science’ when, in reality there is insufficient knowledge of Covid and no scientific consensus yet. I also would suggest much less use of the R number. This is a form of hiding behind science. The R number varies from person to person, from community to community, from region to region, from country to country and it varies both in space and time. The R number for Scotland will therefore be an average of a relatively large range. Trying to reduce this number generally is clearly good but a more open and honest approach is to talk mainly about the death rate and/or the infection rate. These are the clear end-points of all government advice and of resulting community actions. There should be an open admission and emphasis on the fact that reducing lockdown will increase risk and hence cause more cases and more deaths. Hiding behind the R number for the sake of appearing to be scientific is slightly immoral because what we are really talking about when we come out of lockdown is causing extra infections and deaths.
    3) I believe that general lockdown should be continued until it is feasible to commence a strict and efficient test/trace/isolate (TTI) programme and I strongly recommend that the Scottish Government should, as a matter of urgency, set definite and clear target values and conditions for this triggering point, e.g. 2 weeks of consecutive days in which new case rates and death rates have been below ‘x’/day and ‘y’/day respectively. This is both understandable and honest and will encourage the public to comply with lockdown (possibly even including the minority of selfish idiots who are currently flaunting it). And, of course, during the TTI phase, all travel into the country should be hugely restricted and arriving folk quarantined. Hopefully, the other UK governments will cooperate fully and simultaneously. If not, and in extremis, the Scottish Government should consider restricting all traffic from the non-cooperating countries.

  • Posted by amw May 06, 2020 at 12:51

    It is clear from the report and the daily updates, although the latter do not provide sufficient statistics to be meaningful, that the incidence of Covid cases (new infections, hospital cases, ICU cases) has remained largely static in Scotland since mid-April. What are the reasons for this? Since improvement has somewhat stalled in Scotland, it seems inappropriate and unrealistic to be talking about reducing the lockdown measures until substantial and sustained improvements in case numbers are evident. If the current measures are not realising the desired reductions, then clearly they are not sufficient or are not being followed. The latter is evidenced by the increases in road traffic and the many reports of people failing to stay at home and social distance. For example, in my street there are several houses where friends and family are visiting on a daily basis.

    It is also clear that the initial lockdown proposals were not sufficiently specific allowing some businesses, such as DIY shops, and ice-cream shops, cafes, etc to remain open. This just encourages people to travel when that trip is not essential. The daily exercise allowance has been largely welcomed, but it is clear that this is being abused by some. Italy has only just allowed people to travel more than 200metres from their houses and they are further through thus pandemic than Scotland.

    Therefore, the lockdown must remain in place to protect us all from a second , and possibly, larger spike in cases and the First Minister needs to reinforce very strongly the advice to people and businesses accordingly. There is now evidence that the lockdown measures should have been, and perhaps should now be, stronger and more prescriptive. If, as it appears, a small increase in the R number would quickly overstretch the NHS, then the current measures are not yet sufficient.

    There is much discussion about opening schools. Given the current pandemic situation, the fact that examinations have been cancelled, the issues of school transport, the safety of both students and staff a clear and decisive decision should be taken to keep schools closed until August in the first instance. This would avoid any confusion and uncertainty in the short term.

    I have sympathy with all of those people wanting to be able to restart their hobbies ( golfing, fishing, gyms, etc. ) but if every hobby is treated as a special case this pandemic will continue for longer than necessary. Would it not be better to forego participation in a hobby for a few more weeks to protect the wider community?

  • Posted by Buzz May 06, 2020 at 12:59

    If the current restrictions are working as we're told, why are case numbers not declining? The Government's own figures show a levelling-out in the decline in cases. Except for those who become seriously ill, the virus has a lifecycle of (approximately) 3 weeks (from infection/becoming symptomatic/recovering). With that in mind, it should be impossible for these volumes to occur after SIX weeks of lockdown. The numbers make no sense. Either they're wrong, or lockdown is not working.

  • Posted by TonyFinn May 06, 2020 at 13:23

    End the lockdown now and trust people to do the right thing instead of treating us all like children in a nanny state! Stay calm and be like Sweden and other countries taking a sensible approach I do not see any detrimental impact in their figures compared to the uk. Even the World Health Organisation makes NO reference in its Covid 19 strategic preparedness and response plan guidance to countries, to lockdowns and further states that the risk assessment adopted by countries also needs to include mitigation for broader economic and social impacts as well health!

    What had been done in Scotland to assess this social and economic impact before impoverishing millions of people through unemployment and Increased stress and negative health issues through this lockdown before deciding to follow the rest off the cliff in March?

  • Posted by Andyggow2010 May 06, 2020 at 13:37

    Well I think the bubbles are important like close friends and family. Where there is so many people like up to 10 seems good. But when relatives live in supported living that needs to have a special rule to make sure it happens

  • Posted by sophiep63 May 06, 2020 at 13:43

    Definitely would make a huge difference to everyone’s well being if we were able to see our partner. I would happily not have any pubs/restaurants open etc if i could just see my partner.

    Also a small bubble group of say 5 people so we can see some of our friends and family also.

  • Posted by nmills2001 May 06, 2020 at 13:49

    The small social bubbles sounds pretty good, and would offer a small degree of positivity, in what is a very negative and pretty dire set of events just now. The constant social media outrage of people “breaking” lockdown offers nothing and it’s almost encouraged by the press, politicians etc. Being lectured to about how your situation isn’t as dire as others, and how you should just comply is very grating, and it’s probably leading to folk just ignoring the rules as time goes on.

    Offer : open gyms but with reduced capacity, small social groups, anything that would see us going to normal life.

  • Posted by Edin1234 May 06, 2020 at 14:06

    A clear exit plan; social bubbles; relaxtion on the frequency of exercise; and being allowed to travel short distances.

  • Posted by The_Guru May 06, 2020 at 14:10

    it is important for the country to get back to a ' new normal'. All industries need to find ways to get back to safe working conditions. Solutions need to be found, instead of all the negativity that is about.
    The last thing we need is companies closing down and people being unemployed.

  • Posted by kerry May 06, 2020 at 14:13

    I live in a remote area, where I usually drive to walk the dog, I pass one or two people but sometimes no one at all. I can walk for hours and not meet anyone. These types of walk are perfect for my mental health and enable me to cope with every day goings on. I now have to walk around the village where I pass half a dozen people. I live alone and my nearest family are 7 hours away so I have no immediate contact with anyone. I shop once a week in the evening to reduce risks. I feel a blanket rule for all areas of the country is unreasonable when it comes to outdoor access.

  • Posted by rosewifie May 06, 2020 at 14:27

    Definitely time to reduce/remove lockdown. 1. Professor Fergusson's worst case scenario has been shown grossly exaggerated (again). 2. The NHS can clearly cope. NHS however needs a healthy economy to run it, and the economy won't cope for much longer. 3. Herd immunity must be pretty broad according to hearsay - eg 2 out of 6 adults in our household have had (1 confirmed by test), our neighbours, and postie have also had. Those of us who have been in direct contact could surely get back to 'normal' life. Swedish model of self-choice of isolation for the vulnerable is the way. Don't restrict over 70s unless they choose themselves.

  • Posted by Brett May 06, 2020 at 14:36

    A clear and consistent message well reported is key for each stage/further developments.

    The media have a huge role to play here by reporting on areas that have different lockdown requirements accurately.

    People don't want a lockdown to continue any longer than it has to, but should be well informed. Currently the media seem intent on when lockdown will end. Consistently ignoring the reality that this will be incremental and determined by the rate of infection, those infected and compliance of social distancing, hygiene and isolation.

    Perhaps undertake a campaign that demonstrates that the country are complying and what this has achieved and will continue achieve.

    As restrictions change it is important that key messages reach as wide an audience as possible taking into consideration the variations of language, culture and their interests.

    For example not everyone will watch a 1230 or 5pm briefing live on TV. The initial lock down was announced in this way. Resulting in some watching other channels or consuming other media. A coordinated message using broadcasters is necessary.

  • Posted by Brett May 06, 2020 at 14:38

    This does not mean that a message has to be the same in each nation. It does however mean that it is communicated well.

  • Posted by jrob May 06, 2020 at 14:41

    Agree with 'gordon1663' above on post dated May 05, 2020 at 13:04.

  • Posted by jrob May 06, 2020 at 14:55

    Allow people to undertake more activities whilst practising social distancing (walking, golfing, boating, etc.). Allow family 'bubbles' and restricted access to friends.

  • Posted by MrsLogan23 May 06, 2020 at 15:12

    The restrictions need to be more specific.

  • Posted by sbecker May 06, 2020 at 16:01

    Allowing people to access the outdoors more, while social distancing, would offer huge benefits to mental health with only a minimal risk of increased virus transmission. In practice allowing people who live in cities to travel further and access outdoor spaces, increases their ability to actually socially distance effectively.

    Where I live local outdoor spaces are now regularly crowded with people exercising which makes effective social distancing extremely difficult. The ability to travel further and enjoy some outdoor activity would definitely make even strict adherence to social distancing much more manageable the rest of the time.

  • Posted by MsW May 06, 2020 at 16:37

    A clearly defined strategy for phased exit from lockdown would be helpful in obtaining and retaining compliance. A heavily enforced or extensive strict lockdown will likely encourage less compliance. Destruction of the economy, mental health harm and political spinning will not assist. The announcement of a framework recently was unhelpful; and then superseded by this consultation. This smacks of political gamesmanship: on the one hand suggesting that the SG has a plan, and then on the other suggesting not.

    In terms of the re-opening of schools, if this is phased, presumably children will spend only part of their time at school and the rest at home. Juggling childcare with working from home is a tricky business. As a parent of school age children, it would be helpful if "the Science" in Scotland was to consider the Swiss and other research as regards children under the age of 10 and take a view of it.

  • Posted by greenockteenager123 May 06, 2020 at 16:41

    People should be restricted to shopping once a week and require some form of certification - as has been utilised in other countries - to ensure that people are complying with restrictions regarding 1 walk per day and 1 shop p/week etc. Failure to have this certification on you should result in a hefty fine and a way of implementing this may be allowing people to get the certification off the government website once per day for exercise or once per week for shopping etc.

    Possibly not allowing supermarkets to put through transactions that of under a certain number of items to prevent people from nipping out to buy 1 thing.

  • Posted by julselis May 06, 2020 at 17:23

    Firstly, have the police start stopping cars, not just people out alone walking their dog or going to the shops (as is common in my area) Where do you think all these people in cars are GOING? Three times this week I have seen 2 separate cars pull up together on my street, people jump out of each and run to each other, hug and kiss each other....Clearly families, friends and couples who haven't been able to see each other during lockdown.

    So conversely, we need some restrictions lifted on seeing our support networks (family, friends and partners) added in to help people comply....I live alone and although I'm not shielded,7 weeks in solitary confinement is becoming inhumane.
    Why not allow people to see perhaps ONE person, purely socially for an hour a day OUTSIDE (perhaps even keeping social distance) but if they are found to be breaking the rule, then they both have to go into self isolation for 2 weeks, thus stopping any possible spread of the virus and ensuring they can't see the person again for that 2 weeks?

    The policing does also need to be addressed, stopping people walking alone on the street is a bit ridiculous when multiple cars are zooming by to meet their family or friends! Some areas are never even seeing police, some of us have an almost constant presence - do you understand what living like that is like? You don't have to be doing anything wrong for it to start making you very paranoid!

    I suggest if you want compliance, you start getting the police to focus on cars and groups, not people walking alone or with their dog etc.

    Also PLEASE get some Scottish politicians, newsreader and celebrities actually wearing masks on tv etc! How do you expect them to become normalised otherwise??

  • Posted by MercuryD May 06, 2020 at 17:59

    I really appreciate the way that the FM has dealt with this unprecedented situation and I think the response has been measured, pragmatic and the rhetoric open and honest with very little spin or political point scoring in comparison with the UK government.
    We are not going to get back to normality as it was before, possibly for years, so maybe we could all work together to introduce a long term new normal, with longer term common sense restrictions, until we have a vaccine/cure. Allow small family and very small social bubbles, particularly for those with relatives who live alone. Homeschooling can be challenging and sometimes impossible depending on your situation, but some parents and children are benefiting from this and in a position to continue with it, so have the option of continuing this with support from schools/virtual classrooms for those who can and work out a way to provide schooling and childcare "bubbles" for those who can't for whatever reason. Work with business leaders to agree a new normal for working practices. Look at how we can use technology and adapt workspaces to allow people back to work if possible. Provide both guidance and funding (and consequences for non compliance) for businesses to adapt. Can we have a scheme where badly impacted businesses who cannot continue/survive in the new normal are funded/supported to adapt or change their business model (temporarily or permanently) to produce PPE/equipment/essential services which are now in demand as a result of the crisis?
    Re exercise - the paths for exercise are often very overcrowded and there is not always room to walk or cycle safely. Have separate, wider paths and routes for walking/cycling, rather than having pedestrians and cyclists on the same path and drivers/cyclists on the road together with very narrow cycle paths.

  • Posted by HoodedClaw May 06, 2020 at 18:08

    Small family bubbles would help, though I know many are doing this already.

    Perhaps reminders that journeys should be essential. Going round 5 DIY stores across different areas to get fence paint isn't essential and is a risk.

  • Posted by Homeburd May 06, 2020 at 18:11

    I think it needs to be made clearer that changes proposed for the UK do not necessarily apply in Scotland. There is a lot of misinformation of this kind on social media. Not malicious, just ill informed.

  • Posted by Sands May 06, 2020 at 18:12

    I think it is too early to lift the restrictions

  • Posted by Bank May 06, 2020 at 18:29

    Many people are already bending the rules , meeting with others , working in non essential roles . Many others will follow as it’s unless the rules are clearer and are enforced. Otherwise just lift the lockdown and let all have the same benefits

  • Posted by Aferg139 May 06, 2020 at 18:31

    Its too earlt to lift restrictions. Think they should be enforced more. On sunny days they are coming out for a run in the car and visiting the shops. Think its ridiculous that they are allowed to queue outside shops in lines of 30 odd people

  • Posted by CatK22 May 06, 2020 at 18:56

    From what I hear and see, it's the same people over and over breaking the rules. They are in no way concerned of the consequences either in terms of a fine or health risks.

    That leads me to think the only way to deter is to increase the fine. Of course, some have so much money it would still mean little to them, but for most it could work.

  • Posted by O52O2O May 06, 2020 at 18:57

    It is too soon to lift the current lockdown but allowing family that currently live separately to move in together if they wish might help.
    There should be tougher penalties for people that repeatedly break the rules - if people stick to the rules then the rate of infection will drop and we'll all get out quicker in the long run!

  • Posted by marksdonohoe May 06, 2020 at 19:03

    Too early to lift. Shouldn't just be done because certain aspects of the population decide they are bored/fed up complying.

  • Posted by Bugladycv19 May 06, 2020 at 19:16

    We need establish what %age of the population have had the virus. This needs to be done in small regions eg highland is likely very different to inverclyde.

    Allow small “bubbles” of families or friend groups.

    Continue to shield elderly or those at greater risk and ensure that their jobs are safe as being on immunosuppressants should not be a reason to lose your job. If this is not applied people with chronic illness will get sicker with these rather than Covid19

    Publish data by region. And explain why restrictions are necessary.

    Give clear information on plan out and back to work for people...

  • Posted by Vlward May 06, 2020 at 19:27

    There needs to be some element of co-creation of solutions and social ‘policing’ with spaces and organisations that pose the most risk. Most obvious is supermarkets. All supermarket chains need to be included in a discussion about how they can help to enforce physical distancing which includes enforcing through leading behaviour as well as penalties. Local supermarkets have recently seemed to relax rules around people shopping together and staff do not necessarily observe the 2m guidance when working together. More visibility of people doing the right thing as well as guidance and education for those not doing so can help. Similar issue for the improper (and slightly mad) misuse of household gloves in supermarkets. The messages about the purpose of the rules sometimes gets lost here too as people wear gloves but continue to touch their phone, face, hair etc.

  • Posted by EmmaHart May 06, 2020 at 19:38

    As someone else said, we need to know where all the infections are happening. This knowledge will allow an opening up that takes account of this. I suspect that the HUGE majority of infections are happening in care homes, hospitals and the people who work in them. If, for example, there are 300 new infections a day and 99% of them are linked to some sort of healthcare setting, then restrictions can be lifted for the vast majority of the population while they are kept cordoned off from everyone else.

  • Posted by Sierra_Sam May 06, 2020 at 19:43

    With Britain now having recorded more Covid-19 deaths than any of our European neighbours talk of easing restrictions might, at best, be characterised premature.

    Against a background of these record numbers of deaths, talk of comprehensively easing restrictions is an anathema to any proper-thinking and equitable society. The unprecedented numbers of grieving families and lives lost within the health and social care specialties should alone serve as an unambiguous warning as to the virulence of Covid-19. In short, we are by no legitimate measure of reducing harm getting out in front of Covid-19.

     

  • Posted by Kylesku May 06, 2020 at 20:09

    The restrictions have clearly not helped.

    We ahve one of the highest death rates of any country.

    We need to do somethgin different

  • Posted by Mcfuture May 06, 2020 at 20:28

    An additional period for exercise will help to indicate signs of progress in suppressing the virus. However we are concerned about the compliance with social distancing and feel a stronger presence of authority is required. Having visited the supermarket this week there were very few people wearing face coverings despite the current government guidance. Interestingly more people stayed 2 metres away from me than previously had happened because I was wearing one and maybe they thought I had had the virus!!!

  • Posted by Spurzo76 May 06, 2020 at 20:51

    Loads of free alcohol and food so we have no reason to leave our home.

  • Posted by triumphherald May 06, 2020 at 21:19

    Is there any evidence on the effectiveness of various lockdown measures? Are the sources of new infections known?

    I have read that a substantial proportion of new infections are coming from health and social care settings and from families who are living together in the same house. Is there evidence that contact in shops is resulting in new infections?

    I don't think that there will be many new transmissions through contact in gardens or parks. If people can see that lockdown restrictions are effective they would more readily comply. For example, allowing only one outing per day for exercise seems fairly arbitrary and pointless. What harm would going for two or three outings do?

     

  • Posted by susanclutterbuck May 06, 2020 at 21:22

    1) Why does the Scottish Govt. continue to follow the mantras of the Westminster govt. when Scotland with a population of 5.44million has had only 6.3% of the UK Covid infections and 5.6% of total UK deaths?

    2)Why does the Scottish Govt. continue to exclude children from their education and keeps schools closed when total deaths by age group statistics confirm no deaths in children aged 1-14 and only 19 deaths in the 15-44 age group? There is medical evidence to confirm that children are least affected as a population group by the virus and that most of their parents in the 15-44 age group are less likely to suffer fatality from the virus than from the breakdown of their marriages/ harm from domestic abuse/ mental and psychological ill-health/ lasting poverty and unemployment.

    3)Why does the Scottish Govt. continue to apply lockdown measures across the country when it is evident that there are different virus strains circulating in the UK, the most virulent of which locate themselves in urban and densely populated areas, when large swathes of Scotland in the north and west have had sustained low levels of infection, few deaths and little overall impact on hospital/NHS services? How can you expect populations in these areas to continue in lockdown when there is no justifiable reason why people's basic freedoms are being denied them?

    Yes, let's have a grown-up conversation where a continued response to a virus that is affecting a small percentage of our total Scottish population is proportionately aligned to the economic and social devastation being perpetuated at the moment!

  • Posted by bshar May 06, 2020 at 21:34

    There need to be more clarity on the exercise rule, how long I could exercise for and is ''once a day'' the rule. e.g. could I go for a cycle and walk the dog later?

  • Posted by Elyse79 May 06, 2020 at 21:35

    Too many people are doing whatever they want and not obeying lockdown rules. I would be happy for tighter restrictions and penalties.

  • Posted by AlexMD May 06, 2020 at 22:02

    Get rid of the lockdown immediately and get the economy back up and running.

  • Posted by IdaM May 06, 2020 at 22:35

    What would help people comply?
    1] Seeing some light at the end of the tunnel. A clear plan set out by Govt along with a rough timeframe for a way out of this. If lockdown seems endless, people get fed up and start bending the rules.
    2] A clear and visible commitment to test, trace, isolate, support.
    3] An acknoledgement that care homes are now the front line in this battle, and that a clear and visible effort to tackle that complex problem, while gradually easing restrictions for the rest of the population.

  • Posted by MGlasfam May 06, 2020 at 22:46

    More home delivery slots. Currently unable to get any slots so have no option but to go to shops to get essential food items.

  • Posted by IanC3454 May 06, 2020 at 22:51

    let areas in Scotland that have small numbers or no cases of Covid 19 get back to normal ASAP. This would at least get the economy in these areas back up and running.
    It is inevitable that we must go back to 'normal'. I was under the impression that the lockdown was to allow the NHS to get to a stage where it could deal with the expected amount of serious cases. There is no vaccine, at present. This means that people will succumb to Covid 19 just as they succumb to influenza and the many other diseases. it is not possible to stay locked away for ever.

  • Posted by jintygs51 May 06, 2020 at 22:58

    Like many other people who have commented above I too appreciate the straightforward and honest way that we have been treated by the Scottish Government. Our daily briefings and the information given out has, by and large, been clear and unequivocal. This has ensured a good level of compliance up until now. As time goes on however it does become more difficult for people to continue to adhere to the restrictions. Particularly people living in flats who may be furloughed, folk with young families and individuals who have very limited social circles who may rely on casual contacts to have any connections with others. Despite all this I do not believe, from the figures that have been shared with us, that it is wise to come out of our current restrictions yet.

     How we persuade the public to accept this and continue to comply is another matter. Could we get some high profile personalities to help with a campaign? Another way to encourage compliance is to make a clear roadmap. Spain have talked about 3 or 4 distinct phases and have now started implementing these. If we could be given issues to think about e.g. who would be in our social bubbles it would maybe make people feel that they were actively part of t :) e planning.

    I have thought all along that we should act along with the UK but the announcements from Westminster today and the difference in where we are in terms of the curve of the epidemic make me begin to doubt this. The infection rate in London is clearly dropping but that is not so clear here - or indeed in areas of the north of England. If our path has to be different to protect our NHS and save lives then so be it.

    Whatever decisions are made please continue to be really clear in your messaging. This inspires confidence and will encourage compliance.

  • Posted by Salr May 06, 2020 at 23:10

    There needs to be some lifting of some of the lockdown restrictions. People are beginning to find it difficult to agree with the restrictions when the number of deaths in the community, people in intensive care and number of people in hospital with covid 19 are going down. If some adjustments are not made soon, people are going to get very fed up and start deciding on their own what restrictions they are going to start not following. The FM said that the number of deaths has fallen for the first time today in Scotland but that is because she has added deaths in care homes. It's the community figures that are relevant to the lifting of lockdown restrictions. We can all see the numbers of patients in hospitals with covid 19 across Scotland on the Scottish Governments website. Hospitals are eerily quiet whilst cancer patients are waiting at home for their treatment to start up again. Why is the Scottish Government not more concerned about the number of indirect deaths? The long term implications of this lockdown are now outweighing the need to continue with full lockdown.

  • Posted by Lizwren May 06, 2020 at 23:18

    I don’t think lockdown measures should be eased it’s too early! I also feel that this virus will be impossible to contain if we keep allowing people to travel into Scotland. I can’t believe that there are still no checks/testing/ quarantining at airports. How can we possibly get this under control when people could be bringing further infection into the country. The borders need to be closed!

  • Posted by Lexo22 May 07, 2020 at 00:20

    What concerns me is 1: We are told that our R0 rate in Scotland is higher than the rest of the UK 2: The response to this is we are further back in the curve than the rest of the UK , 3: However does that not mean that restrictions in Scotland would have thus been put in earlier In the Curve and should have had a bigger impact ? or is this a misunderstanding on my part as this should mean if current restrictions are working as we think that we should have already lifted them?

  • Posted by Mummykins May 07, 2020 at 00:28

    Too many people already flouting the lockdown rules -until someone they know dies and they realise how serious this virus is! Needs to be tighter restrictions not easing of them. Economy will recover eventually but you cant get a loved one back.

  • Posted by Magsathome May 07, 2020 at 08:32

    While I agree that it is too early to lift the lockdown in general, there are some guidelines which could be eased/clarified. While most people are following the guidelines carefully it is very frustrating to stay at home and watch others clearly just doing as they wish. The general consensus seems to be that it is safer to be outside and less likely to catch the virus, as long as social distancing practised, than being inside in supermarkets etc. For example, In this lovely weather I don’t see a problem with people sitting/sunbathing in parks if social distancing being evidenced. So why not allow this and use police energy to control those out in cars driving way in excess of speed limits, particularly in urban areas.
    It is clear there are far more vehicles on the road 6 weeks on than say 3-4 weeks ago, so why not allow journeys of up to a reasonable distance as long as social distancing is practised.
    Cafes should not yet be reopened as being suggested by some.

  • Posted by KayDee3740 May 07, 2020 at 08:41

    Lockdown has been a necessary step to take tho it has been challenging for many people/families.

     The worrying thing is that all along so many people think it doesn’t apply to them and I think that number is increasing! Cars on the road have increased significantly in the last few weeks. Groups of young people meet in local parks and have alcoholic refreshments or just walk around the streets together. I’m not sure why the police are not challenging them.

    I think lifting lockdown too soon would be a HUGE MISTAKE but it needs to be better policed with stiff penalties for those who think the rules don’t apply to them!

  • Posted by RJY89 May 07, 2020 at 08:43

    There should be a stronger police presence to stop people breaking the rules. I live in Inverclyde where a lot of people have decided lockdown doesn't exist despite having double the amount of deaths per 1000 compared to the Scottish average. People rarely abide by the 2 metre rule and there are lots of groups of teenagers out, people meeting friends and making physical contact with them. We shouldn't be changing anything right now as these people will flout the rules even more if things are relaxed and Scotland isn't ready for that.

  • Posted by DebbieD May 07, 2020 at 08:50

    Easing lockdown has to be driven by risk management and preventing a second wave in autumn/winter. What is permitted through gradual lifting must have a focus on health and the essentials of daily living to sustain health and well-being, for example re-establishing health services, allowing more exercise within local environments, allowing families to meet, and finding a way to open up business.

    The opportunity to look at environmental issues should not be missed, and the chance to strengthen the incentive to reduce emmisions. The 6 areas Rosanna Cunningham identified this week should be developed alongside defining the 'new normal'. Promote cycling, walking and where safe public transport.

    When lifting lockdown rural communities need protected so that there is not a sudden influx of day trippers and campervans, risking spread. The shops and healthcare/emergency services cannot cope with increases in accidents and ill health at the moment, we are already seeing the bikers returning.

  • Posted by debbiec139 May 07, 2020 at 10:31

    It has been disheartening how long it has taken for numbers to drop, despite lockdown, and I understand frustrations. If we are to fight this in the long term I see no problem in restarting anything that can GUARANTEE social distancing but prevent other easing measures until numbers of new infections are below 100 and we have sufficient trace and trace technology to isolate any new potential carriers.

  • Posted by Jmh2501 May 07, 2020 at 10:31

    I think that people are really struggling with not seeing close family. Introducing the bubble idea while keeping all other restrictions in place would give people a great boost and help them to stick to other lockdown restrictions.

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  • Posted by Pecurb May 07, 2020 at 10:45

    I note that a number of the comments have changed the context of the question and given opinions on whether the lockdown should exist etc. So returning to the context, I would state that there is a need for clarity and explanation of how to comply with lockdown restrictions. As an ex-educationalist I am aware of how people sometimes require definitive instructions possibly with illustrations. So, for instance, what is 2 metres? From my experience, some people have not a clue; so why not illustrate this eg “imagine a door flat on the floor between you and the next person”. Give examples for cyclist and runners of how fast and far the virus can be ejected from their mouths so that they understand that they also need to obey the 2 metre rule. This kind of thing gives reality to the guidance being given. Cartoon illustrations etc can help. Let’s keep it simple and clear.

  • Posted by camm May 07, 2020 at 11:07

    I appreciate that our economy is going to struggle with the increased lockdown but compared to saving lives surely this is a small price to pay? The Scottish govt have kept everyone fully informed and allowed for an open and honest dialogue, this is a life line as we move forward to ease restrictions when it is safe to do so. Todays headlines make me worry greatly on the impact of all of the UK and the decisions the Scottish govt are going to have to make. It’s worth remembering that we are at a different stage on the curve (one week behind England) therefore our decisions need to match our scientific evidence and focus on what’s best for Scotland. The worst thing would be a resurgence of the virus with a much greater impact on health and our economy.

  • Posted by MPBinEd May 07, 2020 at 11:15

    Restrictions need to be lifted as soon as possible. Even gradually. If the R numbers worsen, then targeted restrictuion can be reintroduced depending on where the R is worsening (eg, if it's care homes, then tighter social distancing and limits on visits would need to come in for a time ... but only as long as necessary to once again see the R coming down ... then those restrictions should be relaxed also). Everyone is missing their family members and general interaction with others in society. We have to work towards this 'new normal' as soon as possible!

  • Posted by irene108 May 07, 2020 at 11:19

    Personally, I think it is far too early to start lifting restrictions. I would rather stick with it for another few weeks rather than risk a second, possibly much worse wave of the virus.

  • Posted by LaurMc May 07, 2020 at 11:21

    Easier methods of reporting (not waiting 30mins on 101) and prompt enforcement.

  • Posted by NKTC May 07, 2020 at 11:30

    We need a longer period of the measures that we currently have in place, otherwise it will just become a free for all that will increase the transmission rate and force another shut down just when businesses start to get going again. Also, the shut down as I understand it means that business interruption claims can be made by businesses lucky enough to have it, whereas once that's removed claims wont be able to be made but businesses will still be suffering from reduced custom.

  • Posted by opinionatedbesom May 07, 2020 at 11:33

    We are all experiencing 'lockdown fever' to a greater or lesser degree so it is vital to start doing something about it. The 2 metre distancing is generally accepted as being safe and appears to have had an impact in reducing spread. Social isolation and economic disruption are also recognised as creating significant harm. Why can't we look at applying social distancing principles to those areas of social life where we can therefore? Be it gardens/parks/houses wherever and business /workplaces? Shops could have 'appointment slots' for example, folk could meet for a coffee in the garden/park or even their house if space permitted. If that was overlayed with the 'bubble/local/work from home where possible ' approach then I think society could at least start to move back into at least a more upright position. If this was enhanced with TTI for any confirmed/suspected cases that may allow for better containment and understanding of any resulting outbreaks? I think success will be more a mosaic of approaches rather than a "one size fits all".

  • Posted by DRM May 07, 2020 at 12:01

    What will help? - Continuing to provide simple, clear explanations for WHERE we are right now and WHAT the next steps will be WHEN we have the right metrics in place. The sum total of which is to explain WHY we need to do something different.

    Some of the available trend analysis plots are good for presenting the basic information - but just "keep it simple"!

    The discussions about "R" number are above most folk's understanding, including Politicians, so let's stick to some basics that we can all relate to.

    The current "lockdown" was required to slow down the transmission of Covid-19 through our population in order that we did not "overwhelm" our front line health teams. We've largely managed to do that for most NHS locations though Care Homes are struggling at the moment.

    With rates slowly declining, this will give our NHS teams a quieter time, which they badly need for self preservation and regenerating their own batteries and reconnecting with their own families. We need to keep this in mind before easing off on our "lockdown" parameters.

    We also need to use this time to get a few other things sorted out before "easing off" when there will be an increased risk that the virus will spread again. We need ongoing PPE supplies secured. We need increased and reliable testing regimes in place. We need Trace and Isolate processes established and fully supported staff in place.

    The basic requirements have not changed - COVID-19 is a potentially fatal virus and requires us to reduce the potential for transmission through our communities, with particular care for those in the higher age groups.

    Change will need to come however, but it needs to be justified and managed on the basis of Risk versus Benefit - such that all can understand and accept the trade-offs for this next part of the COVID-19 journey - part of another discussion thread!

  • Posted by GHeg May 07, 2020 at 12:52

    Fairness and consistancy, we need to be fair to everyone and open and honest.

    How can Scotland be behind England in the spread of the virus? We ALL locked down at the same time so as the Governement says we had less infections at that time then we should be ahead of England not behind them as it was not out of conrol here when we locked down.

    We need to be fair to all, children are very important but they are being forgotten about, their mental health and education appears to be less important to the Scottish Governement. Still no plans for schools!!!!

  • Posted by alexkerr May 07, 2020 at 13:11

    I am prepared to follow guidelines to save lives as nothing is more important than defeating COVID-19. If the choice is take a risk and come out it now or be a little safer and wait another few days I don't see that as a choice . In the words of Ewan McGregor Choose Life .

  • Posted by TGreen0308 May 07, 2020 at 13:17

    The current measures are disproportionate to the threat of the virus for most people. Aside from vulnerable groups there is significant scientific research that shows covid - 19 is not dangerous to the majority of people. A segment and shield policy, as modelled and published by researchers from Edinburgh and London universities, shows this approach would not overwhelm the NHS and wouldn't increase the mortality rate.

    Expecting people, especially those who are still working and looking after children, to continue along a route that severely and detrimentally impacts on mental health and quality of life is, frankly, as stupid as it is unfair.

    I have serious questions about the science Ms Sturgeon claims is informing her policy when the science I've seen does not support her current strategy.

  • Posted by islajsmillie May 07, 2020 at 13:46

    Any lifting of current restrictions needs to be done on a UK basis. People will simply pick and choose to follow which set of rules they wish to comply with. Policing so far of the regulations as been laxed if social media is to be believed, will make the police officers jobs even harder if there are different sets of regulations for different areas. Fully understand the devolved powers but when people have been following the rules for 6 weeks across the whole country, if certain areas get a lifting in restrictions, and others don't it will be disastrous.

  • Posted by Kimmi May 07, 2020 at 14:24

    Current restrictions aren't tough enough, too many folk ignoring the guidelines

  • Posted by Graham1 May 07, 2020 at 14:37

    It has become clear that the general lockdown in the UK has not been effective in keeping deaths down. Other European countries have had better results with less restrictions in place. In order to save the economy, people’s sanity and general well-being an immediate relaxation of current restrictions is apposite. A gradual return to work, small gatherings of family/friends (restricted to say 6 people), reintroduction of sporting events where there is no physical contact (eg golf) will help to return the country back to life.

    If the lockdown continues the UK will be much worse off. The economy is being strangled. We have pushed our head into the sand. Let’s get going again.

  • Posted by jchapman88 May 07, 2020 at 14:41

    There is nowhere near enough consideration of the negative impact of the current restrictions. The 'cautious' approach as is often said or written assumes there is nothing to lose by maintaining the restrictions too long, which is not the case. I know so many people who are suffering in their mental and physical health for whom small-scale, low-risk activities would make a huge difference. In trying to "save lives", how many more are we blighting and shortening?

    Some of the restrictions are also misguided - for example people are told they cannot sit in a park in the fresh air on their own in their own space coming into contact with no one, and should instead go and be cooped up indoors at home almost all day every day in close proximity to family and neighbours, which clearly makes no sense. No wonder people increasingly don't have faith or confidence or belief in the restrictions and choose to ignore them.

    We need a common sense approach that puts Covid in context and recognises that it is a virus - a virus, alongside all the other viruses out there - that we can't just hide from indefinitely, we need to learn to live with it and accept the mild to moderate illness it causes for most who are infected.

  • Posted by MairiR May 07, 2020 at 15:02

    The majority of people have complied with the lockdown and made huge sacrifices wrt restrictions on seeing family members.
    It is not going to be possible to enforce an open ended lockdown unless we become a military state.
    As the statistics show the majority of deaths have been in the older population, public health policy should prioritise shielding and safety of those in the older population particularly in care homes and receiving care at home by then increasing restrictions on staff who should be quarantined from the wider population to preserve the safety of older residents. Save the NHS as a policy has shielded the NHS but forgotten about the older population,so while the front door was closed, the back door was open for this virus to attack our older generation.

  • Posted by Aurore May 07, 2020 at 15:13

    It appears that only the First Minister is speaking any sense today about easing Lockdown restrictions. With a continued UK death rate of 646 (6th May), I fail to see how the situation is any better to ease restrictions. Little has been done or said to back up any decision. If we look at what's happening elsewhere:
    Spain (according to Reuters) has stated today that they will be putting in a further 2 weeks of "state of emergency" - having tried this week to ease restrictions.
    Countries with lower numbers of deaths have had strict mask wearing regulations in place since the early stages: eg Austria 608, Czech Republic 263 and Germany 7,275. Has this reduced the infection rate and assisted in containing the virus ? Why does the UK persist in avoiding the wearing of masks in public proposal ? The premise is that they reduce the risk of infected person (perhaps asymptomatic) spreading the virus.
    Ease restrictions for people to return to work, by all means, where they can safely do so (and demonstrate such protective measures), but please do not let everyone start going out again and mixing in large groups, who then go on to mix with other large groups. It seems incredibly naïve to think that the country is ready to ease lockdown restrictions - the figures suggest nothing has improved. When we do, please make it clear to the public what is backing up this decision, ie what has been done and what does it mean for everyone's behaviour ?

  • Posted by Bandit11 May 07, 2020 at 15:18

    Giving people a clearer idea of the current chances of infection in the community may help. This seems to have been lost in the statistics and counting of tests.

  • Posted by Lornab May 07, 2020 at 16:21

    People are fed up with being treated like children. Explain why each measure is needed and show the benefits . After 6 weeks in lock down being told to stay at home is wearing a bit thin and i fear that we are being used as pawns in a political struggle.
    Initially i was happily throwing all the blame for the lateness to action in the beginning at the UK Government however as it now appears that our own FM owns the decision about lock down or the lifting of it then surely the lateness to action also sits here in Scotland so perhaps i might start aiming my frustrations closer to home . Delaying the restart of the economy in Scotland for a longer period of time will be detrimental to the recovery of this country

  • Posted by fishwhisperer May 07, 2020 at 16:32

    The current message is clear and much appreciated. However, I think some folk have forgotten the rationale behind 'protect the NHS' - the NHS needs its finite resources retained for CoVid and treating other conditions, not have an excess/unnecessary burden posed by potentially avoidable situations (eg injury through car accidents en route somewhere, risky sports, etc.)
    If this message were strengthened, so that folk understand that treating these (or folk for CoVid who have been ignoring social distancing guidance) might mean the lack of ventilator for someone with CoVid who had acquired it through no fault of their own and had been adhering to the guidance, or conversely that treating those with CoVid might mean insufficient resources to treat other serious conditions incl those injured in car accidents or a risky sport (esp those requiring intensive care), it might "hit home".

  • Posted by Pragmatist May 07, 2020 at 17:26

    In my opinion some of the advice doesn't make sense and people can see through that which is why they are making own decision to break this. For example, the actual probability of a virus being transmitted from momentarily walking past someone in the street without distancing is small . I think more focus should be on the measures which make sense to people in their everyday lives, like hand hygiene , staying home if unwell, and those which are based on cutting down on number of interactions and protecting vulnerable people .

  • Posted by NH May 07, 2020 at 19:47

    Show pictures of people in intensive and interviews with those who have been very ill. If you don't directly know someone who's been ill it doesn't seem as real. Might make people think more about the consequences for themselves and their loved ones.

  • Posted by scotjs May 07, 2020 at 19:55

    Far too early to lift restrictions!

    Let's starve this virus right out in to possible eradication and then stay in lock-down for a few more weeks to really finish it off.

  • Posted by lcraik May 07, 2020 at 20:19


    I had all this in1964 re Aberdeen Typhoid epidemic - the only answer is to rigidly see it through to safety - no school opening and no sporting venues opening Then everyone was fine - no worries on the mental front either . You do not give up a fight until you have won.

  • Posted by angelamcd May 07, 2020 at 21:03

    i say people before money the people saying lift all restrictions now are money driven .

  • Posted by firehorse May 08, 2020 at 02:30

    I would say minor changes would be seen to be positive, eg extended time for exercise opening garden centres. People wanting more, to fill the void could volunteer in the community. The bubble is a minefield, as there is no way to monitor it, people might be involved in multiple groups, maybe those who do want to do it could sign a disclaimer of some description or log the members in the bubble?
    I would also like to see more government media setting out the restrictions, and maybe fine national/local media for misreporting on lifting restrictions.

  • Posted by Any1 May 08, 2020 at 03:32

    Most comments seem to assume that everyone has a car. Whatever changes are made to the current restrictions remember that a significant fraction of the population doesn't. That includes arrangements for testing, since we can't jump in our own vehicle to go to a test centre. Urgent delivery of self test swab kits needs to be a priority.

  • Posted by owenc00 May 08, 2020 at 08:01

    Treat adults like adults! When the health service is well within capacity - which we can all see is true - is it REALLY endangering life if I drive 30 miles to the beach to have a walk with my family? Really? I don't see a shred of evidence to suggest that that is endangering anyone's life. So I might crash my car on the way - well that's a risk we all take when we go out on the roads anyway, and we have the capacity to deal with that. There are only 5 or 6 million people in Scotland, and we aren't a densly populated nation like England, Holland, Japan etc. Is it really necessary to keep people cooped up in flats without a garden, without evidence to suggest why a trip further afield poses any real threat.

  • Posted by AnvilApril May 08, 2020 at 08:05

    Allowing people to mix with their own families albeit still with social distancing in place. So remaining 2m away and not sharing food. This would at least reduce the loneliness experienced by the older population and reduce the impact of some mental health issues.

  • Posted by HarrisSch May 08, 2020 at 08:35

    It is not time to lift all restrictions. However, it is time to allow people out of their houses. What is wrong with allowing people to sit on the grass 2 metres away from someone else? What is wrong with people walking on a country/riverside walkway(especially if they are wearing a face covering)? What is wrong with a couple of neighbours sitting in the same garden, chatting and having a wee social drink. Anxiety and Mental Health are becoming a problem.
    Gardens have become an escape, and an activity to reduce stress. Garden Centres should be reopened, with the same rules as supermarkets, as this would help alleviate mental problems.

  • Posted by oldmill May 08, 2020 at 09:48

    People in Lanarkshire, (my area) some have not adhered to the restrictions and easing them will only encourage some people to almost go back to normal. The 2 m rule is not adhered to everywhere, I have had people tap me on the shoulder in queues, neighbours daily having family over then being hypocrites by clapping every Thursday, groups of teenagers constantly walking about or on bikes, women running in groups, neighbours having birthday parties, facebook is full of street parties, nightly dancing in streets, street bingo. I get hat everyone will say they are socially distancing but all it takes is for one person to have the virus and cough or sneeze,touch something, we don't know enough about the virus yet and its airborne properties, everyone will carry it differently. Staying home is for a reason, it doesn't mean its ok to go out more than we normally would. These social meetings are not our norm, do we normally have discos or on the whole go out walking every single day? Not all these people can say they do so why are we now doing this when we have been told to stay home,we are only encouraging spread. Easing restrictions will be like a green light. You either have the restrictions or not as some people can't stick to lockdown either because they don't understand the importance or think the virus won't affect them.

  • Posted by Fredbearwizard May 08, 2020 at 10:07

    Hang on in there lockdown is working we need to be a bit more patient
    i live at home with an autistic child who finds it hard but we understand how important it is to STAY HOME and save lives of everyone
    far too many people have died its time we as a nation took our own lives and lives of others more seriously by not moaning how we have to be locked down and find a way to ease the boredom its not forever

    WE DONT WANT A PHASE TWO
    so stay home its too early for lockdown to end

  • Posted by TrishaRJ May 08, 2020 at 10:18

    I'm impressed by the consistent, science informed and humane way the Scottish Government are dealing with this, Nicola Sturgeon and advisers attempt to treat citizens as adults.
    It is too early to lift restrictions (we need to extend to at least June) but some minor changes could be considered, e.g. People who are symptom free and in a relationship should be allowed weekly contact, If garden centres can ensure physical distancing it would help lots of people to keep busy at home (one trip only though); many viable suggestions are made on these pages but we need to ensure it can be supported as opposed to 'policed' and such may be challenging.
    I would also urge the Scottish Government to consider alleviating the poverty some people/ families are finding themselves in, e.g. a one-off payment to households severely affected by this crisis.
    I know Home Office deal with asylum seeking people and those on visas, but if Scottish Gov could exert maximum pressure to have a year's grace given the current context, I am sure it would benefit many people currently in a vacuum.

  • Posted by Bean333 May 08, 2020 at 10:46

    Free food and access to the hills.

  • Posted by ProudTeuchter May 08, 2020 at 11:00

    Current restrictions are too inflexible, they do not seem to take into account that many people live in very different circumstances.

  • Posted by jencboyle May 08, 2020 at 11:05

    A clear path set out for return to the new normal similar to that of New Zealand. By providing information on the potential stages of lockdown and what each will entail will help people see the light at the end of the tunnel. There could always be the caveat that these are subject to change inline with R number etc. This will also allow business to forward plan for each stage and ensure a smooth transition as polices and procedures will already be in place.

  • Posted by elisemiller May 08, 2020 at 13:22

    Giving people a time-scale/goal to reach rather than not knowing when we might be able to see who we love, growing impatient and losing hope and positivity.

  • Posted by Eng48 May 08, 2020 at 15:05

    We should all remember that our current "lock down" is one of least intrusive in the world. Many other countries had far more severe lock down. We should not relax the existing lock down rules for both the public and businesses until there is at least 5 days of constant downward trend in both cases and mortality from specific numbers to be generated by both Science and Medical "experts". Even then certain additional rules must be put in place to ensure we do not get a reversal.

  • Posted by Chimp May 08, 2020 at 16:58

    I believe the R number for the general population is significantly below 1, but is being inflated by care home figures where most new cases seem to be occurring. Lockdown care homes as tight as a drum, and allow the rest of us some respite from the unnecessarily draconian lockdown measures. I live in Lothian where only around 2000 cases have been reported in total from a population of almost 1 million (source: BBC News website). How many patients have been admitted to the Louisa Jordan??? Get some perspective and let us out to participate in activities where we can maintain social distancing. Sweden had no lockdown at all and have far fewer cases than UK.

  • Posted by WBRnotes May 08, 2020 at 20:07

    There seems to be limited value in having a lockdown that isn't enforced. As others have said, in recent days, traffic is heavier and more people are lingering in parks and taking less care with social distancing.

    If the government is serious about lockdown - which I believe it is - then perhaps once it's decided what measures are to be in place moving forward, it needs to ensure that these are clearly explained and kept to and those who don't adhere to them should be fined or otherwise held to account? At the moment, this doesn't seem to be happening to any great extent.

    It may be necessary to issue strict guidance/laws re maintaining safe working practices and workplaces should be made to adhere to them in whatever way is deemed best - fines, being closed down for a number of days etc.

  • Posted by CHill May 08, 2020 at 20:36

    To help people follow the guidelines in Scotland, the Government here in Scotland could explain a wee bit about the following important point – which is a legal matter, not a political one.

    The “penny” really only dropped in our house recently when my partner was concerned about the recent mixed Lockdown Exit messages. What should he do if Boris says workers should go back in Construction while Nicola feels this is not yet a viable option for Scotland’s place in the epidemic, and his Boss (in Construction) nonetheless expects him back at work?

    The answer clarifies a hugely important point – namely that he should not feel conflicted because there is no conflict. Management of the Coronavirus in Scotland is about the health and wellbeing of the Scottish population and Health is devolved to our Scottish Government. Yes, Boris Johnson is the UK Prime Minister, but it is a Union of 4 Nations and it is the First Ministers for NI, Wales and Scotland under their respective devolved powers who have to determine the timings and strategies of their Lockdown Exit plans, each appropriate to the prevailing circumstances at the time.

    This realisation has made us feel more relaxed in our house and we hope and trust that the Prime and First Ministers act wisely for everyone’s sake. Better of course if they consult together.
    Thanks.

  • Posted by TiMoMac May 08, 2020 at 21:01

    Totally disagree with continuing the lock down. Would much prefer investment in shielding and testing, with management of airports and borders. We are having significant freedoms and rights removed, without convincing evidence that there are any benefits to the wider population. Hugely concerned about the longer term economic impact, especially on fragile communities with multiple challenges to contend with. Can we use this as a positive reason for investing properly in ways to bring these communities out of the mire? If we want Scotland to act independently of its neighbours this would be a good way forward and one that would win support for positive action, rather than a strategy of unfounded fear.

  • Posted by fja1980 May 08, 2020 at 21:39

    I don't envy the government this job, no one will ever be happy across the board but some small ray of hope and clarity on the way forward would be good. Ireland have set out a plan and of course it could be subject to change but it's a clear picture of proposed future steps that will be taken in succession if the infection rate permits. I live in Aberdeen and my parents are in Ayr, it would be good to have a rough estimation of when we will be able to see them again

  • Posted by Free May 08, 2020 at 23:27

    Being more lead by the science and the fact that for most people this is not life threatening. The long term effect of mental and physical health is being severely affected. Social distancing yes. The government have had plenty of time to put in legislation that makes a long term difference. We are going to have to live with this so let's be realistic. If the same focus, energy and support could be applied to supporting the nation being healthier we would not be in this crises. Look at Sweden. So lifting the exercising restrictions for the mental and physical wellbeing of our country. If you are personally frightened or concerned about your own health then the govt needs to support you. Obviously we will exercise in a responsibly socially distancing way. Removing the once a day guideline, the one activity. How long you exercise should not be restricted it should be encouraged to exercise for longer. The question about if it is legal to travel to exercise is of great confusion- the English guidelines makes more sense- travel time should be less than exercise time. Please clear this up. Using the whole of Scotland for our little population would make more sense. I no longer live in a city and live in the Highlands. I firmly belive that people from towns and cities should be able to travel to the outdoors. Improve mental and physical health and less over crowding of public spaces in city. Need to focus on supporting and messaging that is about encouraging exercise outdoors in a responsible and socially distancing way. - not "stay at home". Stay safe and get fit.

  • Posted by Haggis59 May 09, 2020 at 07:10

    It's too early to lift restrictions. It's frustrating seeing people deciding themselves they are safe from virus now because they've been social distancing last 6 wks so they can now visit family etc. So naive and ignorant of them to think they are now invincible to virus. Some of these people I am referring to are key workers and highly skilled so you'd think they would know better.

  • Posted by Frosy87 May 09, 2020 at 08:31

    Increase broadband capacity and capabilities in rural areas quickly for children and those working from home.
    Develop online schooling with face to face capabilities to allow children to see their friends.
    Increase capacity for home deliveries for those in need.
    Provide a timetable for school return so children can be told what is happening and start to understand how their lives will be.

  • Posted by XR May 09, 2020 at 11:59

    Totally disagree with continuing the lock down. The Swedish option should be followed.

  • Posted by Bournefabee May 09, 2020 at 12:57

    There is such a lot of frustration expressed here, it seems hard and unfeeling to suggest extending lockdown. However, take a look at those graphs of hospitalised people and deaths. Many of those hospitalised may not have survived if those beds were not there ready for them. Are we ready to throw that advantage away?
    We look at other countries and we see better numbers, but we know we haven't tested everyone so whose figures are accurate? Speaking as someone with a lot of over and near 70 year old family members I am very concerned about how we exit lockdown without losing what benefits we've gained. It seems too soon to start easing.
    I agree that people are breaking lockdown already and perhaps those activities can help inform where we can plan future easing opportunities?
    Family visits seem to be one area. Also, expanding the definition of key workers to include those in need of returning to work for other reasons. And supporting this hopefully only slightly increased number of workers with childfree via hub schools.
    People could be allowed out more than once a day and for longer. But the police will undoubtedly become very busy with splitting up groups who flout these changes.

  • Posted by Hata May 09, 2020 at 13:32

    So many people are now choosing to visit family and friends but implementing their own safety guidelines i.e. bringing their water bottle, sitting at other ends of a garden etc. If people are doing this anyway why not issue researched back evidence of how to do this safely?

  • Posted by seileasdar May 09, 2020 at 14:53

    To be honest, I am at my wits' end.
    I see all the government messages on the media, I watch the clear daily briefings and advice.
    And then I look around on my time outdoors, especially in supermarkets and I despair.
    How can messages be heard and not processed and adhered to?
    Does the government need to shout lounder?
    Do we need more rules and clear punishments of their disregard?
    Does the message need to be any clearer?
    How can we appeal to those who are currently doing the toddler strop to see the benefit in compliance?
    Do we need more education about the virus?
    Or a combination of all of the above?

  • Posted by waxwing May 09, 2020 at 15:53

    Stop taking an authoritarian approach and trying to micro-manage people's lives. We train children by giving them responsibility for things. Let's start giving the people of Scotland an opportunity to take responsibility for their own actions.

  • Posted by PiedFifer May 09, 2020 at 15:58

    Having just celebrated VE day I think it's apt to bring up the war effort to compare what is happening today.

    During the war people were mobilised to aid the war effort. Everyone got involved and the achievement at the end of it was a shared one.

    I've seen people calling up the Dunkirk spirit and cries of we're all in this together. If we get through it we'll have achieved something good.

    Contrast that with present day and what is happening now. Everyone is essentially immobilised. They're not doing anything of value other than sitting waiting. There will be no sense of achievement for all at the end of this. At best most people will be relieved it's over.

    Ease out of lockdown. Give people responsibility for their actions. Everyone can pull together to keep stragglers in check. Who knows, maybe over time we can define a new social contract where everyone works together to achieve a common goal. I just don't see how keeping everyone apart can ever achieve a feeling of togetherness.

  • Posted by CatK22 May 09, 2020 at 16:09

    Some people do seem confused about the rules. Or at least think they are "unfair" because they are unequal. So they don't comply. (E.g. people being to told to shield while others don't have to.)

    Perhaps we need to be more explicit in telling people why the rules are the way they are. Be very clear.

    E.g.
    no non-essential travel because RTAs take up a large amount of emergency services resources (RTAs dropped over 50% in some places in march)
    no high risk sports for the same reason
    People in X category have a Y% chance of death if they contract the disease and a Z% chance of long-lasting effects.

  • Posted by Lanaiya May 09, 2020 at 16:25

    Stop Tourist’s camper vans and caravans entering the highlands.

  • Posted by Rachel_T1502 May 09, 2020 at 16:28

    I think the lockdown, whilst obviously needing to continue, needs to become more sustainable, especially for example, for those living alone - having at least one close face to face contact is essential for mental health reasons, even if this was outdoors socially distanced just once a week in the first instance. At the same time I find it extremely frustrating how chaotic the big city supermarkets seem to be and wonder whether efforts could be put into enforcing stricter legislation in indoor areas where people can potentially congregate and maybe enabling some kind of schemes to ensure staff in these places are setting a good example to follow, which is not always the case at present. Another issue- daily excercise at present in city centres is occurring with congested, overcrowded pavements and paths in the smaller local parks and joggers passing close by within 2m with no warning. It would seem sensible to allow people to travel short distances to more secluded areas with much more space to allow more effective social distancing.

  • Posted by saddleworth2 May 09, 2020 at 16:39

    I think policing of the current restrictions should be more proactive. We have 'locked down' as instructed but watch the traffic increasing every day, see many openly flouting the guidelines. It is little wonder our R number hasn't reduced as fast as possible. There are plenty police but apparently they don't seem to take action.

  • Posted by Govanite May 09, 2020 at 17:10

    Help enable people to comply ? The vast majority of people are already complying. Almost all of the comments here are about specific incidents of the selfish/thoughtless/brainless few who are flouting the restrictions. They must be made to see that they are considered undesirable pariahs by all of society. That coupled with heavy fines might work. They are after all potentially killers. This also applies to supermarket staff who flout the 2 metre rule among themselves when they should be the ones enforcing it, they should be setting an example and maybe this is something that could be tackled by their managers.
    As for easing any restrictions, I can’t infect anyone if I’m driving in my car so distance shouldn’t matter. Also, 3 or 4 friends or family getting together outdoors in a back garden for instance during the summer months should be OK as long as they abide by the hygiene and 2 metre rules, etc.
    What I believe really matters is to reduce contamination by enforcing the 2 metre rule and the compulsory wearing of face masks in public areas. This could become the only safe and therefore socially acceptable norm for the foreseeable future.

  • Posted by Christina May 09, 2020 at 18:30

    In the longrun I believe we're facing bigger risks and losses of lives for other reasons than Covid if we continue a strict lockdown much longer. I fear for mental health, suicides, economy, domestic abuse and so much more. Give us something, give us hope. From day one I have wished I lived in Sweden.

  • Posted by wnobrien May 09, 2020 at 21:13

    I agree social distancing is likely to continue, but the lockdown needs to end. I understand that saving lives is a priority but remember the longer the lockdown remains in effect it will have significant and detrimental impact to people’s mental health. People cannot live in fear, perpetuating the lockdown contributes to the fear and unrest will insinue.

  • Posted by HelenMM May 09, 2020 at 22:14

    The ingenious idea was to offer the furlough scheme. As long as people have even the 80% of their income, they will be more likely to comply. However when that will be reduced to 60 and then wherever, people will start to worry about their bills and food and rent and anxiety will reduce compliance.

  • Posted by Ghostie May 09, 2020 at 23:42

    Restrictions should continue until the FM and her advisors are convinced that it is safe to lift them, however, if there could be some relaxations that could be implemented safely then this would encourage the population to persevere. Some minor things that would improve matters would be to lift the limit of 1 hour's outdoor exercise. As long as people can exercise safely and maintain social distancing then there should be no limit on the time spent outdoors. Also it would be beneficial if people were allowed to drive a short distance to exercise eg 5 miles. Sports/pastimes such as golf, angling, etc should be permitted to start up but limited by such things as limiting travel to 5 miles, only 1 household per vehicle. If businesses can safely reopen eg by maintaining social distancing then they should be allowed to eg Garden Centres. each business should be required to produce a Covid 19 safety plan before they reopen, this would detail how they are going to ensure social distancing eg limiting the number of customers on the premises at any one time. Also there plans for hand washing, use of hand sanitisers, cleaning/disinfecting their premises, safety of staff, etc. Outdoor volunteering activities should be allowed to restart eg community woodlands, providing that they have a Covid 19 safety plan.

  • Posted by FM79 May 10, 2020 at 10:24

    A clear plan of when the restrictions are going to be lifted is needed now. Whilst the numbers of deaths and infections isn't great, they also aren't to the extreme that warrant the continuation of the measures in place now. Almost everyone I know is now more worried about the longer term wellbeing and economic impact of continuing to be stuck in the current limbo than of covid. The initial lockdown allowed a pause to get a handle on the virus and to make a plan to coexist with it, as the reality is that it isn't just going to disappear. The NHS is not overwhelmed, the numbers are dropping. Treat us like the adults we are, get business and the economy moving and trust the Scottish people to do this whilst maintaining social distancing, good hygiene practices etc (yes the manority won't but that's the same for every law or rule in the world). No one wants the numbers to go back up, but equally I can't believe that people want this lockdown to go on for so long that we have nothing left at the end re economy, business, mental health etc.

  • Posted by Dave_H May 10, 2020 at 11:36

    I have said before, if the lockdown is going to last a long time (and at the moment that loos to be the case) then in order for people to tolerate and respect the restrictions, we must be given a bit more freedom.

    By that I mean there are many things, like outdoor sports in small numbers, that could be allowed VERY soon. If we are given a bit more freedom to do what is clearly safe, then the other restrictions will be respected more.

    If activities that are clear to all pose little risk, continue to be restricted, then people will start to resent the rules as they will perceive they are not there for a good reason, and start breaking them.

    I firmly believe if we have more freedom to do things that are plainly safe but currently restricted for no reason, then there will be more respect and more compliance with more serious things that will remain restricted for some time.

  • Posted by NHY May 10, 2020 at 11:48

    1. A thorough understanding of the truth to reduce anxiety and fear.
    2. No financial concerns -universal basic income.
    3. Ability to have safe social contact ( introduce track and trace to shield vulnerable and minimise risk)
    4. Restriction on sensationalist or distracting media reporting. Increased honesty liberated from profit making.
    5. Trust in government at national and local levels.
    6. High levels of personal responsibility supported by trustworthy sources of information.

  • Posted by Moj14 May 10, 2020 at 13:00

    There needs to be some flexibility and soon around meeting family, in my experience I have witnessed all those around me and myself follow the rules. This way of living is not sustainable in the long term if we want to nurture mental health. Social distancing has all ready become the new norm we can be trusted to apply it in all settings.

  • Posted by Joc May 10, 2020 at 15:36

    I'm aware that we have lost the earlier messages about the importance of have washing and not touching or face. I think this could be introduced again in relation to more freedom to go outside. The importance of social distancing is stressed again and again and rightly so. However, in addition to keeping the distance, there is a danger of catching the virus as soon as we are outside our front doors from bannisters, gates, benches, doors and a myriad of other surfaces if we transfer it to our mouths, noses and eyes. How about adding to the social distancing message with drawings of people touching surfaces between going out and coming home that may have the virus then touching their face? As well as those who are asymptomatic, am I correct that even people who have had the virus could pass it on to others from things they have touched? This is going to be even more important as people get fed up with staying indoors.

    Please can we allow local orienteering again as this is a sport people do as individuals? Needs to be done bearing in mind social distancing touching and hand washing as above.

  • Posted by Charlotta May 10, 2020 at 16:08

    We should move away from lockdown and allow people to use their own common sense and responsibility. Give clear guidance on hygiene, staying home if you have symptoms, limit gatherings over a certain number etc but beyond that, we need to start treating the population as adults. Look at the Scandinavian countries for ideas on how to do this, they have balanced risk very successfully. We also need more balanced reporting - the virus is not a threat to the very majority of the population but the consequences of long-term lockdown are.

  • Posted by carerbear May 10, 2020 at 18:03

    A firm timescale with dates to work towards. People are getting restless

  • Posted by YG May 10, 2020 at 20:43

    The current restrictions as they are called are a mixed bag of legislative requirements, and 'asks' variously described as guidance/advice ( accurate) and rules (inaccurate). It is understandable that in the available time, governmental efforts were constrained. As time goes on, it is vital for legitimacy and credibility that the two are entirely consistent.

    The opportunity should be taken to examine some of the values that underpin the current guidance - the conventional self-sufficient nuclear family forming a household of bricks and mortar is the starting point for the current measures. As such it alienates many sections of the real-world community.

  • Posted by LJW24 May 10, 2020 at 20:45

    The most crucial thing is to keep trying to reduce the number of new cases and bring down the R. The continued lock down announced today by the Scottish Government is the right move but at no point was there an acknowledgement that by many the restrictions frequently mentioned in the announcement are not being followed (e.g people visiting friends). Whilst I don't think fining people is the right approach, there at least needs to be a recognition that the lock down that the Scottish Government has stated they want to continue is not happening to the extent it should be.

  • Posted by CNB May 10, 2020 at 21:33

    1) If it is within the Scottish Government's gift, some serious thought should now be given to UBI - as the economy shrinks and unemployment rises, the reassurance of UBI could help provide stability as many workers may have to retrain e.g. airline crew, travel agents, restaurant and pub workers.

    2) Explain to non essential businesses that they cannot open until they have provided a COVID safety plan. Until they have achieved an acceptable safety plan, they must provide a regular update e.g. once every 2 weeks on how the safety plan is progressing. Once they have an acceptable safety plan, their workers can return to work and furloughing will stop. This will provide clear guidance to employers and employees, unlike the message provided by Mr Johnson this evening - If I were an employer or employee in England, I would now have great concerns that the furlough scheme might be stopped

  • Posted by wesdec13 May 10, 2020 at 23:39

    I agree with Gordon 1663. We need full data on age and cause of death on all deaths in Scotland during the period of Lockdown. Healthy citizens under 65/70 are being penalised unnecessarily by Lockdown, particularly our youth, who are our future, all of whom have had their schooling disrupted, and for many this will take years to put back on the right track, far longer than the 3 months of schooling actually missed.

    A phased release of lockdown starting NOW with a clear timetable over the next month is imperative not only to avoid the damage to mental health and well-being, much of which will stem from loss of work or businesses built up using personal finance over many years, but also to avoid a complete breakdown of compliance with restrictions.

  • Posted by Djalaodbdld May 11, 2020 at 08:00

    We need more clarity around “exercising as close to home as you can”.

    Please set an actual limit on this in miles from you front door that you can travel for exercise. For example in Ireland they are not allowed to travel more than 20km.

    Setting clear limits will remove any grey areas where people may unintentionally breaks the rules.

  • Posted by JuliaM May 11, 2020 at 10:08

    A clear timetable (dependant on certain conditions being met) to give us some hope. Not written in stone, but an indication of what restrictions could possibly be lifted if conditions are met & in what timescales.

  • Posted by Nm May 11, 2020 at 10:11

    It's easy to forget how dangerous the virus is. We should listen to the experiences of patients still slowly recovering and learn from the stories of doctors who treat patients of all ages. Maybe the CMO could give a medical overview describing what is known so far about the harms caused in the short-term as well as the longer lasting effects on multiple organs. Emerging syndromes in children are also worrying. It is only fair that everyone understands this and it might put the difficulties of complying with lockdown in perspective.

  • Posted by Cathol May 11, 2020 at 12:40

    The initial evidence suggested lockdown was necessary but the UK was too late, the virus had spread, studies suggest the no of asymptotic cases are higher than thought.
    Why are we not reacting to new evidence, its apparent that the virus is not as deadly to the general, healthy, working age population.
    From the stats is quite clear the most at risk groups, we should be focusing on protecting the most vulnerable and encouraging those least at risk to start getting back to normality in a sensible manner.

    Many of the populations mental and physical health is deteriorating. Business’s, especially those is the leisure sector, are receiving no assistance and no indication of when they will be allowed to get back to work. Small business’s are being persecuted and many will be forced into liquidation.

  • Posted by BruceE2 May 11, 2020 at 13:10

    Implement random testing to use any unused sampling capacity. Use the results of the random sampling to inform the R number and the next steps

  • Posted by AnnieScot May 11, 2020 at 13:19

    Fully agree with Nm on 11 May. You need to keep stressing the number of excess deaths here in Scotland, displaying this at briefing sessions in an easy to understand format, as well as on social media platforms. This will hammer the message home as to why lockdown needs to continue.

  • Posted by fadleo May 11, 2020 at 13:22

    Universal basic income

  • Posted by Stargazer1960 May 11, 2020 at 14:52

    I am extremely lucky - I have a good sized home and a large garden. I feel extremely sorry for people who do not have this and especially for people who don't have this and have children. The challenges of amusing children inside a small flat for weeks on end must be really difficult. Some form of opening up their lives within amended rules would be my priority to stop people breaking the rules. Perhaps they could pair up with one other family for social interaction?

    My other main concern is the young adult population living at home with their parents. My 19 year old is living with parents both approx 60 years old. He is at his wits end. If he could travel to meet one or two friends whilst still maintaining social distancing that would be great, or if he could get back to work in some format or other. He loves wild camping could access to our beautiful countryside be opened up a little, within strict guidance?

  • Posted by LOBBIG May 11, 2020 at 15:38

    Restrictions must remain in place for now.

  • Posted by IMcK May 11, 2020 at 17:45

    Physical social contact is a basic need. People are already bending the rules to get it. Set out defined, but sensible limits for numbers of people to meet and safer strategies (e.g. two household picnics) so that this need can be met and so we don;t end up with people abandoning all the restrictions out of desperation and loneliness.

  • Posted by rptcal May 11, 2020 at 18:54

    People need to understand social distancing, especially as more people will be circulating as the lockdown is eased. I don't see it happening at the moment, even with relatively few people around.

  • Posted by Cathol May 11, 2020 at 19:47

    Social distancing should be the norm not lockdown.
    Locking up the healthy is a very strange response, our immune systems will weaken so not only will be more vulnerable to covid19 we will be more vulnerable to everything else.

  • Posted by sandraed May 11, 2020 at 20:15

    Very small social bubble of 2 people, with social distancing. A selected two that does not change. Increase the bubble as weeks go on.

    Have retailers open, with safe measures, that could offer people who are at home something to do, i.e. DIY stores, Garden Centres, home decorating stores.

    Have regulations put in place for adopting/ housing pets. This is an important time where a pet would offer a householder comfort and company. Dogs Trust and the SSPCA are not able to carry out this function at the moment.

    Clear guidelines for employers before anyone goes back to work that are not presently at work. Many people are scared to go back to work at the moment.

    The parks are too busy to go to as more and more groups are forming, particularly young people. At the beginning of the lock-down there was a high police presence, this has dropped away. Week one in Glasgow Green there were up to 10 police present within one hour; walking, cycling, in police vehicles. Today, 11th May, walking my dogs for 45 mins and later running for 30 mins, there were no police.

    I appreciate greatly how our government has talked with us everyday and the steps and journey we have all taken and I feel very comforted that I am in safe hands.

  • Posted by Hep2020 May 11, 2020 at 20:57

    Small social bubbles would improve the mental health of the population so much especially for children, teenagers and those who live alone.

    The longer term effects of poor mental health will be awful and we do not have sufficient support systems at the moment to help. The Governments would need to invest heavily in additional mental health services and to train specialist staff over a number of years.

  • Posted by LisaB May 11, 2020 at 21:28

    I think we need to see and hear more from people who have recovered from the virus. Showing what 'mild symptoms' mean in the context of this illness would help people understand that even if they don't die, they could be severely ill. I don't think there's a full appreciation that 'mild' doesn't mean the odd sneeze or a wee bit under the weather. That might help to make people think before they act and take chances.
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