Businesses that have been restricted or closed
Businesses will need to change the way they work, requiring them to operate under strict safe working guidance. Our initial focus is on construction, manufacturing and retail, where less work can be done remotely, as well as elements of outdoor and rural work where transmission risks are likely to be lower.
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The Scottish Government has committed to engaging with the public and is interested to hear your thoughts on this topic.
by ScottishGovernment on May 04, 2020 at 08:23PM
Posted by Gwenne May 05, 2020 at 12:51
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Posted by garyr1982 May 05, 2020 at 12:55
1. Work from home where possible and praciticable
2. Social distancing and hygiene rules to be strictly adhered to and policed by senior management. Businesses cannot reopen until they have a safe system of work in place and must provide soap, water sanitiser etc to all employees.
4. Restrict the number of employees / staff at premises to a number suitable for welfare facilities available, ensuring staggered start/end times, break times and shift working is considered.
3. Travel to and from workplace to be restricted to indivudals own transport, i.e. no use of public transport
4. Permit to work issued by local council (permitting travel to and from work within certain hours perhaps)
5. visitors to workplaces not permitted i.e. employees only
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Posted by Nscott94 May 05, 2020 at 12:57
I have asthma, albeit not severe, and as I have not been told to self-isolate with a letter. Can I be forced onto public transport and the office when I can work remotely?
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Posted by Doonhamer May 05, 2020 at 12:59
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Posted by JMc May 05, 2020 at 13:01
Whilst there are challenges around the viewing of newly listed properties, there will be a large number of properties that had agreed sales prior to lockdown and are awaiting a relaxation of lockdown measures in order to complete.
Many, if not all, of these moves could be conducted whilst adhering to social distancing (use of self-hire vehicles, storage units or even removal companies could be combined with staggered handover of keys). Given the chain effect, this will positively impact estate agents and law firms whilst contributing to the collection of taxes, mitigate against a crash in prices and the associated economic harm.
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Posted by LynnS May 05, 2020 at 13:01
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Posted by TheDancingDino May 05, 2020 at 13:01
Firstly: non-public facing (e.g. manufacturing, construction). It may be as simple as requiring the use of face masks to be worn until the rate of infection nationally has become acceptably low. Ideally, we'd need data to understand the length of time for which this would be required (e.g wearing face masks at work for a month would be easier than asking for them to be worn for 6-12 months) to assess how people may feel about the idea.
Public-facing businesses, however, may need social distancing to continue as there may be no other way to guarantee safety.
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Posted by poppy197312 May 05, 2020 at 13:02
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Posted by David May 05, 2020 at 13:02
The present situation is crazy!!!
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Posted by Bill May 05, 2020 at 13:04
We are with anti-inflammatory and antibiotics for last 5 weeks. As long as dentists take precautions can't see why will still need to be in pain.
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Posted by rhudiepup May 05, 2020 at 13:06
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Posted by Jaja797 May 05, 2020 at 13:08
We have " a different kind of customer base " . Customers who mix together in shops , who I cannot see taking any heed to social distancing. I've worked in the bookmakers for 34 years and I always state we have a different breed of customers than let's say Tesco etc .
So what could we do to keep safe ?
Only open for customers having an immediate transaction at the sales point then leaving the shop immediately .
No , live racing on Tv s in shop ,
No . Paper display
No chairs , tables etc .
2 metre distance " dots"
Screens on counter
Partitions between staff
PPe .available .
What I am saying is please think of the bookmaker staff when you lift the restrictions. It's a different kind of retail that needs thought out carefully.
Only card transaction
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Posted by JakobUhd May 05, 2020 at 13:10
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Posted by Shogun May 05, 2020 at 13:10
These two person teams should not be allowed to swap team members. So limiting possible spread of infection.
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Posted by Jane May 05, 2020 at 13:13
I think this should include public and local authority services - technology and appointment slots could assist along with priority drop in sessions.
Seeing this change if managed safely will be a very visible sign that we have a clear plan.
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Posted by KerryV May 05, 2020 at 13:13
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Posted by PeachesHumph May 05, 2020 at 13:15
Also people who visit multiple businesses during a working day eg sales reps should be discouraged to do this and use all the technology readily available to stay in contact with their clients
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Posted by Piefke May 05, 2020 at 13:16
remotely!)
2) hygiene precautions enshrined in health and safety regulations and therefore legally enforceable ie it is the employers duty to have surfaces cleaned if hot dealing is necessary, all work places have to have shared facilities professionally cleaned (kitchen, break rooms, toilets, bannisters, door knobs etc)
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Posted by lalpton May 05, 2020 at 13:17
I believe that both property surveys and viewings by prospective buyers (with estate agents present) would restart with appropriate rules surrounding such visits and appropriate precautions are taken.
Specific guidance for property surveyors and estate agents should enable them to return to work, in what is a much less risky area than manufacturing or retail; but an area which can have a greater impact on the economy.
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Posted by Piefke May 05, 2020 at 13:19
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Posted by mjm88 May 05, 2020 at 13:21
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Posted by CityScot May 05, 2020 at 13:22
- limit number of customers by having staff on doors ( like in current supermarkets)
- where possible, in larger stores , a one-way “traffic “ system such as ikea already implement. Using multiple entrances/exits to facilitate.
- use of face coverings by everyone to reduce the risk of possible spread , in conjunction with existing social distancing , hand-washing etc
- more centralised pay-points in stores with managed queues , enabling other staff to assist customers and being able to freely move to be able to still observe distancing. These centralised pay points could be perspex shielded to protect staff and public .
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Posted by csoutter May 05, 2020 at 13:22
Wish list would include a camera at the entrance to every public building for temperatures to be checked, also an appropriate app to check if any people entering the building have been covid-19 positive.
Not meaning to ramble on but I think a lot of people are very conscious that the virus is still out there and they will naturally behave to keep their self safe.
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Posted by nentwistle May 05, 2020 at 13:24
Closing or restricting the roads outside shops for vehicular traffic for a couple of hours a day would allow customers to queue safely and so allow shops to open for those few hours.
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Posted by Fifewifey May 05, 2020 at 13:26
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Posted by STP May 05, 2020 at 13:27
- Please could you explicitly reference furnished self-catering holiday accommodation to avoid any uncertainty about what rules apply to this sector as the current wording by both Scotland and Westminster only explicitly refers to other types of holiday accommodation.
- Please be very explicit about when self-catering holiday accommodation is being told to stay closed and/or on what terms/conditions these properties can start welcoming paying guests again to avoid any ambiguity.
- Please also be very clear about any geographic differences in the rules and/or if any revised rules apply differently to different types of properties e.g. very remote properties where guests can stay with no interaction with the local population and other tourists.
- Similarly, please be clear if guests from the UK will have to be considered differently from EU and/or Rest of the World guests.
Separately:
- Please could any updates to the use of second homes also be very clear to avoid any ambiguity.
For all these questions, would it be a good idea explicitly to take into account the views of the local communities through the very local councils etc or other consultation methods?
Thank you.
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Posted by rcdm1876 May 05, 2020 at 13:31
Site arrival check and protocol point
Designated work pattern and set locations
Socially distanced canteen/ welfare/ mess rooms
Appropriate PPE
Shift patters and set scheudling to allow continuity and productivity
Extensive RAMS for all operations on site to minimise contact, risks and also appraise accordingly.
Sites adhering to this check list should open and recommence,
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Posted by ArchieM May 05, 2020 at 13:32
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Posted by gles1964 May 05, 2020 at 13:34
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Posted by Jennifer May 05, 2020 at 13:34
Also public transport, trains and buses are so full that people are standing on top of each other - will there be a restriction on number of passengers? And in turn more services? Danger is people forced back to work and forced into congested transport.
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Posted by melder92 May 05, 2020 at 13:35
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Posted by iwhelan May 05, 2020 at 13:37
Every business and director has a duty of care to their workforce. There are legal responsibilities. Criteria should be set to allow directors to consider whether a return is feasible for their business e.g.
- Amount of interaction their business has with the wider public.
The more they have, the harder it will be for them to mitigate the risks (and/or the more factors they will have to consider and deal with). The less interaction they have, the easier it will be.
- The nature of their premises and density of occupation / nature of work.
An office services business with open plan office and ability to maintain sensible social distancing within the office can be considered very low risk. A manufacturing business with a production line and a need to transfer product from hand to hand or a retail business is clearly higher risk. Ultimately many risks can be mitigated and the onus should be on allowing directors to find solutions for their business within a framework.
- The ability to allow workforce to continue to WFH if preferred.
Where businesses can allow a large element of choice for their staff on whether they wish to continue to WFH if preferred or required due to commuting, health or childcare issues, then those business are better placed to return to work than those that can't.
Other criteria should be set, but allow directors to assess and make their own decisions.
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Posted by gayleboa May 05, 2020 at 13:38
It would not be possible to return to work safely unless screens are installed, the small waiting area radically redesigned, training courses with no more than 4 people present, cleaning between every participant, a resolution to shared areas (toilets, kitchen area etc).
I can't see how this would be possible presently. We have a major issue with participants turning up suffering illness and not seeing why this is a problem at the best of times!
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Posted by twentyoneforever May 05, 2020 at 13:40
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Posted by Alex2005 May 05, 2020 at 14:04
How long will it be to get all parts of the economy up and running?
What happens to those furloughed if England opens businesses before Scotland?
Will we still be paid?
Sorry folks but we all open together or unemployment will soar many businesses are closing now uncertainty on when they can reopen is causing many to say can’t do this anymore.
My company have been great so far but even they will have to look at the costs and personally I believe they will close outlets North of the central belt very soon if we can’t reopen.
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Posted by GrahamChristie78 May 05, 2020 at 14:09
To avoid issues with public transport, the government should insist that employers continue with home working wherever possible. The technology is there to work effectively. Perhaps offer some incentives to encourage cycling to work (I believe the French gov have some sort of scheme with vouchers for cycle repairs to get old bikes back on the road). Packaged trains and buses must be avoided.
I think face covering for public transport and shops needs to be upped from a recommendation to a stipulation.
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Posted by EmiRem May 05, 2020 at 14:14
I am confident that the Scottish Government will do the right thing and I am delighted to see that they are open for feedback and ideas from the public.
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Posted by anniec May 05, 2020 at 14:16
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Posted by mike May 05, 2020 at 14:25
There are some easy and logical bits of easing, not life changing or necessarily a major impact on the economy but will do much for generally creating a feeling of progress and optimism within the populace.
For example someone has already mentioned garden centres and nurseries which surely can readily operate with the required standards of social distancing. Re-open recycling centres again with appropriate measures in place. Surely small shops with rules such as one customer at a time makes sense.
Construction work and a gradual re-opening of schools, particularly nurseries could follow coupled with sensible precautionary measures as these must be so important to our economy and society but of course subject to close monitoring of rate of further infection.
However, I fail to see the importance/relevance of such things as the re-opening of betting shops also mentioned earlier and I have to question the case for bridal shops.
Our politicians are being pestered for plans as to how we come out of lockdown - to a large extent this is both unwise and unfair. A rigid plan would be inappropriate and fraught with danger. The approach has to be flexible and each step dependent on careful monitoring.
While our politicians are answerable to the people they should not have to endure some of the crass questioning of some elements of the press/media, some of whom are still hell-bent on just trying to catch them out for another "gotcha!" which gets us nowhere.
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Posted by SimonShearer May 05, 2020 at 14:37
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Posted by ChrisHutchings May 05, 2020 at 14:38
However, commuting to the site is likely to pose a considerably greater risk, so this might create a class-based restriction whereby only people with their own cars would be able to go to work. Some allowances might have to be made for people to get lifts from colleagues if there is no other way for them to reach the site.
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Posted by Kenwayt May 05, 2020 at 14:47
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Posted by Aa May 05, 2020 at 14:57
Outdoor work should be easy to allow to resume with the reduced risks.
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Posted by Bonnie50 May 05, 2020 at 14:59
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Posted by thomast May 05, 2020 at 15:02
I only then act as I would at home. The other people residing in the holiday park are the same.
Has any harm been caused - I would suggest not.
Benefits are people get a change of scene and a better outlook, a small community gets a much needed cash injection, and the park business keeps operating instead of collapsing.
Some degree off personal freedom of movement and choice must be given, or the goodwill and compliance of the vast majority of folk will be lost.
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Posted by NeilW May 05, 2020 at 15:12
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Posted by isolation2020 May 05, 2020 at 15:12
Staff can be tested for covid 19 prior to openening
Hairdressers can wear plastic aprons masks and glove ( This is worn by nursing staff in green zone) and deemed appropriate PPE also clients can wear face covering.
All equipment used should be cleaned in between clients and work surfaces sinks chairs also cleaned between clients.
Any products or items displayed in salon for sale should be removed and stored elsewhere to cut down on cleaning of salon at the end of the day.
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Posted by davemgk1989 May 05, 2020 at 15:31
Take Glasgow for instance - circa 600,000 people / 4 weeks in a month = 150,000 people
Week 1 (e.g Yellow wristband) - 150,000 randomly selected members within Glasgow council area given yellow wristband and allowed to go about daily life by visiting e.g parks, cinemas, restaurants, hairdressers , general businesses.
Week 2 (E.g Blue wristband) - next 150,000 follow suit and are integrated back in to daily life whilst respecting restrictions.
Week 3/4 - Same as 1 and 2.
I accept this may be unlikely but by giving people a unique wristband or some other identifier we would be preventing a mass influx of people to concentrated areas when restrictions are eased.
By trialling this over a significant period we are easing back into a new normal, whilst also allowing businesses to steadily get back on their feet safely.
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Posted by rjm May 05, 2020 at 15:31
It is important that when the time is right and risk has been reduced that there is a clear understanding of the differing types of "holiday accommodation" within Scotland, whilst some offer rental accommodation by means of static caravans, lodges or cottages and may or may not have communal recreational areas, restaurants, bars and shops, others are owner occupied single properties often in very rural areas with little or no facilities nearby. Some smaller caravan parks are solely owner occupied with a no rental policy and no communal or leisure areas. As such the opportunity for "mass gatherings" is an option in some locations but not in others. The risk assessment as such must be considered for each category. It would be unfair to apply a ruling across the board as this may impact on the private owner and their ability to access their holiday home which they could safely do without increased risk providing lockdown precautions are maintained.
Further consideration could be given to restricting the number of residents visiting caravan parks at any one time and to space out rental allocation by location and thereby enhance physical distancing.
The majority of the Scottish population had adhered to lockdown protocols and this has been effective, however it is important that population morale is also maintained and some relaxation which will permit sensible utilisation of holiday homes/caravan parks within a controlled manner will not only boost spirits but assist in kick starting rural economy in Scotland.
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Posted by ifu03359 May 05, 2020 at 15:31
Garden centres re-opening would make a lot of people happy and larger ones could easily use social distancing measures and contactless payment.
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Posted by Stirlig May 05, 2020 at 15:49
It seems perverse that small businesses that have no doubt taken the government grant and probably the self-employed support scheme are re-opening and continuing to trade. There is no justifiable reason for people going out to collect takeaways, go to the chip van etc etc while the current lockdown restrictions are in place.
We do however need to have some idea about how long we are going to be closed and what support there is going to be after June 2020. We want to do the right thing but we still need to be able to support ourselves.
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Posted by simonm May 05, 2020 at 17:09
much as I dislike centralising of authority I think in this instance that the Government should be stating what is acceptable - not recommending or advising as unfortunately I do not share some others view on this thread that leaving this to the employer is an option.
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Posted by RossK May 05, 2020 at 19:23
Show some trust in our businesses to find a way that works for them and allow them to get back.
Get Garden Centres open straight away - should never have closed. They are safer than supermarkets.
Offices can be very flexible with a mix of home and office time on some sort of rota. with different office layouts etc.
Working safely post lockdown is not rocket science - it just needs a flexible and pragmatic approach and a good dose of common sense.
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Posted by T101 May 05, 2020 at 19:49
Whilst one can grasp the logic in the decision to close these spaces, could there be some form of exemptions for those of us that need access to outdoor spaces in order to carry our jobs?
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Posted by adnil May 05, 2020 at 20:24
This will continue to reduce numbers on public transport and roads.
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Posted by Raven765 May 05, 2020 at 20:34
Too many business owners are thinking about their pockets instead of thinking of the lives of others. Please keep non-essential business closed.
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Posted by Jane4 May 05, 2020 at 20:53
Settling estates of people that have died needs to continue soon otherwise remaining family are left with mounting debts and maintenance and council tax for properties if they cannot sell them.
Many families have been left in limbo expecting to move home and then suddenly unable to.
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Posted by Teresa May 05, 2020 at 20:54
Younger people in particular are finding it more difficult to work from home. They often live in substandard, cramped accommodation. They are not getting the support and development that would greatly benefit from possibly having a long term damage to their career.
For businesses it is very difficult to recruit or redeploy staff to new roles so stifling business.
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Posted by LAM May 05, 2020 at 21:37
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Posted by wtyoung53 May 05, 2020 at 21:42
My son and his fiancé have both sold their flats and have bought a house nearer their place of work, but the whole process is frozen due to the lockdown and the Registers of Scotland being closed. The sales could be completed in a safe managed format, as could the removal, as the removal firm has already notified them of their planned procedure for working.
please consider getting this easy process moving again and spark some business into the economy whilst allowing young people to start their lies together.
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Posted by RayCavanagh1962 May 06, 2020 at 02:15
I have more than enough space to social distance more than the recommended 2 metres as we need to work on platforms which is larger than the 2 metres for one person. each person has a platform to themselves for the duration of their session (1.5hrs) as well as a full compliment of weights etc. the gym can be timetabled for each group of 8 lifters throughout the day over 7 days and we have essential cleaning practises after each group are finished with equipment and before the next group come in...we also have hand sanitiser in the bathroom, outside the bathroom..at the entrance door...and at each platform with tape on the floor to make sure we do not step out our boundaries . We do not need to go near other lifters (the coach on rare occasion if lifters are requiring a catch but this is still at a distance of 6 feet from either side of the person.
We have the means to make this work and did it quite well as we implemented this before lockdown for a few weeks successfully. The small private gyms are very different from the large corporate gyms and relay heavily on keeping memberships going or they go out of business as we still need to pay rent, electric and water bills whether we are there or not and most small gyms already struggle to make ends meet so are not eligible for government grants or Universal credit.
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Posted by JockCrawford May 06, 2020 at 05:47
1. Working from home for those who can
2. Social distancing and hygiene policies adhered to, enforced by management and signed for daily by staff. Safety meeting each morning to discuss possible issues or breaches.
4. Limit the number of employees on site, restrict numbers in certain areas like control rooms and canteens, staggered start/end times, break times.
3. Travel to and from workplace to be restricted to indivudals own transport, i.e. no use of public transport
4. New paperless/electronic systems in place to lessen people touching same paperwork, paperwork no longer leaving site with deliveries or being handed in. Electronic handovers between staff.
5. Legislative and must do maintenance only to restrict numbers of contractors and non employees on site.
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Posted by lindamarshall May 06, 2020 at 08:54
Pubs and restaurants form part of communities and, by using the Scandinavian models, can use safeguarding measures such as distances between tables.
Being stuck in a prolonged lock-down is detrimental to people's mental health and going out to a pub or restaurant gives a sense of structure to people's week and something to look forward to.
It is also vital that they open soon before their businesses go to the wall.
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Posted by lindamarshall May 06, 2020 at 08:54
Pubs and restaurants form part of communities and, by using the Scandinavian models, can use safeguarding measures such as distances between tables.
Being stuck in a prolonged lock-down is detrimental to people's mental health and going out to a pub or restaurant gives a sense of structure to people's week and something to look forward to.
It is also vital that they open soon before their businesses go to the wall.
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Posted by AnnaKucharska May 06, 2020 at 10:36
& to go to the farm shop nearby which feels safer than the supermarkets.
Garden centres should also be open.
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Posted by malonk May 06, 2020 at 11:21
1. Construction and manufacturing
2. Retail
3. Restaurants and bars outside
4. All sector
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Posted by glasgowdoctor May 06, 2020 at 11:37
Clearly if social distancing remains in place for a number of months - as seems sensible - many small restaurants, bars and cafes will struggle to comply with the rules.
However, there are many many bars and restaurants with large floor spaces which would allow tables to be placed more than 2 metres apart and "walkways" to be arranged to allow entry and exit safely (although in my mind, based on what we know about transmission of respiratory viruses, someone walking quickly past a table really presents no infection risk in any case). See Phillies in the southside of Glasgow, GWR on Great Western Road in Glasgow and the Glasgow Academical Sports Club bar as examples of this sort of establishment.
Also, many smaller restaurants feature booth seating. In my mind, perspex screens could easily be erected between booths and at the entrance to booths which would eradicate the risk of aerosol and droplet transmission between tables. See Partick Duck Club in Partick for an example of this booth seating.
The hospitality sector is in a fortunate position in that they are already inspected regularly by local council environmental health departments so it would be very straightforward to ensure measures put in place met any regulations set down by Holyrood.
Clearly it is desirable to reduce risk of COVID-19 transmission. However, we cannot eradicate risk of anything, including COVID-19 transmission. Policy needs to be about managing transmission this risk and balance it against other factors such as the undoubted morbidity that will come along with the poverty faced by those who work in the hospitality sector if steps aren't made to reopen dining establishments in a safe manner.
Finally, as I have mentioned regarding schooling, I think it is of utmost importance that the Scottish Government actively analyses data from and correspond with their counterparts in Sweden and South Korea where restaurants remain open and in Italy and some far eastern countries where re-opening of restaurants is beginning to take place.
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Posted by AMNCL0605 May 06, 2020 at 11:55
Wherever possible those who can work from home continue to do so but we need to see service providers now providing a better service and customers not having to wait 2 hours on telephone lines to speak to someone during emergencies.
If you cannot work from home, social distancing measures to be put in place, this may mean extended shift patterns, staggered work times (to help with public transport) plastic screens where possible, one way systems etc as has happened in many large supermarkets for staff.
Public transport to be fully operational with more services run if possible - everyone to wear masks on public transport. Safety screens on busses (most have these) one way system on and off busses.
Construction sites - have been opened in other countries and this seems to be working well.
Hospitals to be opened up for cancer treatments, transplants necessary surgery etc.
Recycling centres to open immediately - people are already fly tipping!
All outdoor work can easily be done using social distancing measures!
Cafes and restaurants firstly in take away format in longer term perhaps those with outdoor areas first accepting only small nos to begin with then indoor again using the Swedish model.
Sweden has not locked down and has lower death rate - look also at how Germany is dealing with this.
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Posted by Rabg May 06, 2020 at 11:59
The lockdown should be extended till the end of June, so that the ‘R’ value has the best chance to come down, therefore reducing the risk of any further lockdowns in the future. If we reduce measures then before then people will naturally become more relaxed about the measures in place and the risk of further lockdowns would be inevitable. If the ‘R’ value is brought down to 0.1 or lower then it would be fair to say that we have beaten this, any higher would risk further infection and further lockdown.
If we start to ease lockdown at the end of May then we are half heartedly beating this and not giving everybody the best chance to come out of this and resume normal life quicker.
Short term pain for long term gain.
If we lockdown till end of June then and the ‘R’ value is down at 0.1 or lower then we can basically resume normal life instead of prolonged agony of semi lockdown, social distancing for the rest of the year! For an extra 4-5 weeks of full lockdown is better than having another 5-6 months of a semi life that’s actually just rubbish. Children not getting the education they deserve because they are not at school as they should be, work places like the hospitality industries not being able to operate as they should.
If we come out of lockdown end of May in stages we are just prolonging the agony of not being able to go to the pub, restaurant, work place, playing football with your friends or playing any sport with your friends.
Why the contribution is important
This idea is important because it’s the simplest and most effective way to beat this situation. Common sense should prevail and rushing back would in the long run just extend this period instead of beating this period and returning to a normal life.
If we didn’t do this it would be like getting a prescription for antibiotics from your doctor and only taking half the course prescribed instead of the full course. The chance that you’ll be back at the doctors for another course of antibiotics would be inevitable. Just think about it!!!
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Posted by JeanE May 06, 2020 at 14:14
Many people are ignoring social distancing in supermarkets now and I fear it will be the same on public transport. As someone in their mid 60s (WHO state over 60s are at a higher risk) and still having to work, the prospect of being on a packed commuter bus for almost 2 hours daily is frightening.
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Posted by ACL May 06, 2020 at 14:20
The extension of furlough for specific sectors by Scot Gov, or creation of anew scheme to support them to support their staff will assist greatly and prevent a large number of event staff and companies failing very fast.
This will impact on venues like the SEC, P&J Live, EICC and many ,many others. If this isn't considered, then these venues will undoubtedly have to reduce costs and staff numbers will be decimated. A specific event support package is essential, but seems to be behind the curve of tourism or hospitality, despite them being more likely to open sooner.
The economic damage to Scotland, our Festivals and Cultural Celebrations would be horrific and irreversible.
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Posted by WMPC May 06, 2020 at 14:39
We already have companies opening to increase their profits and use the 'essential worker' plea as a defence. Coffee is not an essential journey, or store.
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Posted by jimmcfadyen May 06, 2020 at 16:32
FM states construction, manufacturing and retail are to be prioritised. I am not so sure about retail particularly in shopping centre environments. It is a slightly lesser concern on High Streets, but would lead to an increase in transportation and more difficulty in social distancing in shopping centres and High Streets.
Reliance on managers and the workforce and union leaders (where they exist) to police compliance with social distancing, hygiene facilities and transmission controls (PPE, Ventilation). Pre-start up inspection by council, unannounced inspections by council and HSE after start up.
Discourage the use of public transport, by having universal free parking for workers (car sticker??).
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Posted by Brett May 06, 2020 at 18:02
Employees travelling to work do so using public transport or in some circumstances by car. I can ensure my work place adheres to best practice but at this point fear that opening non essential stores will place those in the transport sector at increased risk. Whilst asking my staff to increase their risk without adequate protection, at the moment. How do we prevent overcrowding when traveling to and from the work place. Realising that shoppers will also use these services?
The opening of non essential outlets has seen large demand created during lockdown by KFC, Costa, B&Q and is the primary reason given by Greggs to reverse their decision to reopen.
If we are to ask people to stay at home, we can not at the same time ask non essential retailers to reopen. The two are mutually inclusive. People can't stay at home and visit retailers.
When I do reopen, I have measures available to me to create a safe shopping environment. My company have undertaken extensive works to exceed their duty of care to their stakeholders across the world in varying circumstances. Updating and enforcing guidelines regularly. This won't be the case in other businesses. Stores should only reopen after local authority inspection.
My store is located within a shopping centre this becomes difficult outwith my premises. For example queuing, hygiene and distancing within the mall.
The mix of goods and flow of customers can be advised but the primary safeguard with distancing is the key message or personal responsibility to show respect to others by maintaining distancing at all times when out and about.
I look forward to resolving these issues. However suggest that landlords of shopping centres should have limits for entry and conditions of entry enforced. European stores currently have access to hand sanitiser, facemasks, limits on entry to malls and landlord supported queuing within the malls.
Some stores in Europe have reopened and have shown this to be too early and not economic.
The furlough system has to be updated to allow part time re-entry to the labour market. Stores should be trading reduced hours and perhaps days.
When I return I am in no doubt without intervention by government there will be significant redundancies made. A job retention scheme is not a short term fix. To be successful they must aid employers and employees in the medium to long term.
I fear returning to work too early. I fear loosing good staff that will be left unsupported in a saturated labour market. The universal credit system is inadequate at present to support them and should be avoided. Furlough has been about maintaining a workforce that is available to business, it has yet to retain jobs. A return of business in a new normal is a challenge far beyond reopening our doors. Reopening is a incremental process in itself and requires support for all stakeholders.
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Posted by Pammybee May 06, 2020 at 20:00
I work in a large office and the majority of staff are now successfully working from home.
Returning to the office would not be practical as we currently hot desk, a large percentage of staff use public transport which I know is a huge concern for everyone, should we have to use it.
It also allows front line staff to use transport without it being overcrowded by people who do not need to use it.
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Posted by NewYorkChrysler May 06, 2020 at 20:09
Manufacturing can follow similar risk reduction strategies and having additional cleaning and hygiene in the workplace. Key manufacturing has stayed open. Ask them to share & promote their safety procedures with others.
Office based staff should work from home as much as possible. Infrequent visits to work should be permitted.
Dentists and orthodontists must reopen with additional protection such as temperature monitors, visors, masks and increase room ventilation and cleaning.
Public transport is a major concern for those going to work. Close proximity to others is likely to lead to further transmission of the virus. Buses and trains should perhaps only permit 30% of seated capacity and also be cleaned more frequently. Hand sanitizer gel available on all public transport.
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Posted by Mcfuture May 06, 2020 at 20:37
Compliance needs to be seen to be encouraged and where necessary to be enforced. (By special constables/ local authority workers/ army/ new posts)
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Posted by TG May 06, 2020 at 21:34
Allowing people to access garden centres & recycling centres I do not believe would greatly increase the risk of spread of disease & yet could have a very positive impact on people who have utilised their time in isolation to sort through/tidy houses & gardens.
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Posted by KDCEK May 07, 2020 at 07:17
On a wider level the need for childcare persists if any form of easing of restrictions is to be implemented. Practically, I would be happy to continue to socially distance and practice increased hygiene in public indefinitely to allow more businesses to open. We may need to get a bit more creative on how we run our businesses but businesses should be supported to try new ways of operation.
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Posted by Rolca123 May 07, 2020 at 09:38
Outdoor markets could be re-opened quickly too as they're outside and no worse than the confines of a supermarket.
Allowing caravan parks/private lets to re-open would give people a "holiday" and help the economy without huge risk as long as everyone stays with their household and or bubble.
Perhaps it's too soon to allow hairdressers to re-open but, perhaps measures could be put in place to minimise risk in the not too distant future?
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Posted by DebbieD May 07, 2020 at 09:52
In rural areas local food producers and shops have been champions providing home delivery in the absence of a usual supermarket shop. As an example can this be sustainable into the future, ,support local economies and reduce food miles?
More people working from home may help local/rural economies with people maybe choosing to use local shops rather than travelling into a town thereby reducing pollution and also bringing a change lifestyle which is perhaps more sustainable.I
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Posted by AA1234 May 07, 2020 at 10:47
Need to look at Hairdressers returning to work surely there is a way some form of PPE could be used to make it safe.
Areas where it is difficult o socially distance should be the last to reopen eg pubs, cinemas, . I would doubt if many people would want to go just now anyway given the risks.
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Posted by snapier May 07, 2020 at 10:57
Start up construction as quickly as possible - there is no reason why Scotland should be different from England.
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Posted by charles May 07, 2020 at 11:32
This would start to officially allow a controlled movement of people which would in turn benefit small retailers and visitor attractions such as castles, gardens etc where social distancing could easily be achieved.
For small retail shops in both rural and areas of outstanding beauty it is essential to have visitors otherwise they’ll be no point opening even if they were allowed to.
It is worth noting that the vast majority of small hospitality businesses such as holiday lets and b&bs have not been able to secure any government support during these difficult and extraordinary times.
Small hospitality businesses are a vital and key part of the Scottish economy and allowing these to open would be of great benefit in the early stages of our economy road to recovery as well as protecting there existence for the future.
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Posted by SC2020 May 07, 2020 at 11:57
For example in offices extra equipment can be ordered to allow desks etc to be spaced out adequately and office layouts can begin to be changed.
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Posted by WilfredLawrieNicholasJohnson May 07, 2020 at 12:12
How can we be sure that the current CLC guidance is:
a) Safe?
b) being enforced by the company?
c) being further enforced by authorities like HSE?
The guidance is flawed and unclear with many unsafe recommendations, such as face to face working for up to 15 minutes to highlight the most obscene suggestion (a UK government recommendation).
The Scottish Government should issue its own guidance for the construction industry in Scotland. First and foremost it should be safe and clear. Some suggestions to improve safety could be as follows:
• Staff should travel alone and not share public transport or share vans in any circumstance
• Limit number of people on site at any one time
• Everyone should wear a mask
• N95 masks and goggles for anyone who has to work within 2 metres
Final point. Construction bosses only really care about the money or the programme. They never care about the hardworking boots on the ground, never have and never will. There needs to be enforcement and heavy fines issued to those who don’t want to comply or are not taking it seriously enough. The only thing that will force some of these people to comply is if there is a financial incentive.
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Posted by triumphherald May 07, 2020 at 13:22
The economy obviously cannot afford extending this widespread lockdown, especially as the benefit seems to be fairly small.
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Posted by DRM May 07, 2020 at 13:23
Many of the bigger businesses will already have a good structure in place for assessing Health & Safety risks to their workforce, so a review of requirements to deal with the specifics of COVID-19 such as social distancing and appropriate PPE, should be straight forward for them. All such assessments should be fully documented and agreed by management and workers alike.
The Health & Safety Executive should be required to take a lead in producing a simple process / format for each business sector to follow - to ensure consistency of application within each Sector and across Sectors. Protecting against COVID-19 is the same challenge for each of them, though the protective solutions may be slightly different in each case, depending on size and complexity.
Each business would them have to demonstrate that they had undertaken a detailed review and had made appropriate changes to protect their workforce against COVID-19 transmission.
Construction and Manufacturing businesses should already have the necessary Health & Safety processes to enable them to do this properly. Any key risks would be identified and discussed with workforce / Unions and H&SE.
Overall process should probably include:
- definition of process to be followed by each business sector - H&SE
- detailed assessment within each business - Mgt., Workforce / Unions, H&SE
- remote Induction Process for workforce - prior to returning to work site - "the rules"
- ongoing monitoring of the effectiveness of control processes - Mgt., Workforce, H&SE
- learn and improve as we move forward - everybody
Retail businesses will have less processes in place for dealing with Health & Safety matters and will therefore need more support and guidance to get this right - but the principles are much the same and a formal assessment of risk and mitigation will still be required.
The social distancing challenges facing a small Cafe will be greater than those being faced by a large supermarket (already opened) or Department store. Control over Customer numbers will be required and the wearing of PPE for staff, and face coverings and even "gloves" for Customers will need to be consistently defined and managed across this Sector.
It needs to be made clear to all concerned that it's not possible to get to "zero risk assessment" even if businesses are "opened up" in a controlled way. However, the consistent use of a defined process will help to ensure that risk is minimised for both workers and customers alike.
The existence of a common process will also make it easier to stop and review / improve, if there is any evidence that COVID-19 transmission has occurred in the work place.
We will need to be able to restart some of our businesses at some time in the next few weeks. The timing should be based on a consideration of Risk versus Benefit for both individual and economy, e.g.
- a High Benefit business sector with Low Risk of virus transmission should be amongst the first to resume business operations
- a Higher Risk business sector with relatively Low Benefit should remain shutdown until Risks can be sufficiently mitigated
The above can be plotted on a simple matrix to make this more visible and more easily understood.
In summary,
the Risk of COVID-19 transmission cannot be eliminated but can be significantly reduced by the application and control of good health and safety process.
Businesses need to own this process but the Health & Safety Executive need to provide the ongoing "Quality Control"!
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Posted by eve3981 May 07, 2020 at 14:36
There are a large number of properties that had agreed sales prior to lockdown and are awaiting a relaxation of lockdown measures in order to complete.
Home removals could be conducted (adhering to social distancing) . Solicitors should be able to complete the documentation(adhering to social distancing) . This will positively impact estate agents and Solicitors and would help kick start the economy bringing in taxes .The property market is a sector that requires to get moving.
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Posted by ItsYourMove May 07, 2020 at 15:56
Certain types of business occupy pivotal roles in the flow of social and financial activity. If they are not up and running, nothing downstream of them can properly come back to life.
It is important to identify these enabling facilities and make sure that, especially where they have decided not to continue working remotely, they are cleared to re-start operations, helped to do so safely, and advised that in fact they have an obligation to get back in harness and clear their backlogs as quickly as possible to help the country get back on its feet.
Legal and financial concerns are obvious contenders. Most large firms have managed to maintain limited services, but many smaller ones such as Solicitors’ offices have found themselves ill-equipped to do so and in the face of too many obstacles some have simply pulled down the shutters and stopped communicating.
The sector is however probably well placed for an early restart, with some encouragement.
In terms of Safety, the confidentiality of client information already imposes a certain discipline. Much can be done by phone and on-line, but for essential face-to-face conversations discrete consultation areas are common and regulated by scheduled appointments which could be fixed duration, with screens etc. added as appropriate. Office facilities are also often well segregated and could be further adapted for distancing if need be, and in many small businesses part-time staffing can further reduce contact. With careful thought, signing off of documents could be done safely, and short journeys specifically necessary for legal transactions made a reasonable cause to be out.
In terms of Impact, the ravages of Covid-19 will for Solicitors unfortunately mean a huge backlog of winding up of estates and inheritance issues, even winding up of businesses, untanglement of debts etc. Property transactions too are virtually at a standstill, creating hugely stressful situations for those involved and probably also huge financial strain. Re-starting these would enable a flood of consequentials. Small firms and self-employed tradesmen depend a lot on house-movers for alteration and upgrade work. Removal firms say they could already work safely in controlled circumstances, but have nothing to do. There are many more similar examples.
Registers of Scotland have already gone the extra mile to make an enhanced level of digital property business possible for the time being, and Authorities, Organisations and companies are working together to build a framework that will allow things to hang together until some degree of unlocking occurs.
If this were to be sooner rather than later for Solicitors, the stimulus to public confidence and mental wellbeing would be huge, but so would the subsequent stimulus to the wider economy. Significant sums of money would suddenly be changing hands, with the Scottish Government of course due a sizeable portion.
It’s hard to think of other areas of Lockdown easing with such immediate and potentially far-reaching benefits.
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Posted by Brian1977 May 07, 2020 at 18:17
There is no way in which government can protect the safety of every individual going about their work, travel, social and commercial lives. Government can give advice and set out training and quality standards. In my opinion the large supermarket chains have shown what can be achieved relatively quickly when this advice is given and systems adapted. (Can the benefit of this effort and investment in time, training and materials be quantified in terms of reduced virus transmission?) The government needs to follow up their apparent success with supermarkets by giving other business sectors the means to demonstrate that they have re-structured their operations so as to prevent virus transmission and therefore can be allowed to resume business operations.
Alongside this transfer of responsibility for safety to businesses from government, the government should also provide training to the public in the practices they need to adopt and why. The simple slogan approach was affective initially but for the long term we need to give everyone the opportunity to obtain knowledge and understanding to protect themselves and their communities. Many training organisations have considerable expertise in setting up on-line training modules. Modules could be developed at a basic level for the general public and at a higher level for sole traders (eg roofers, gardeners or repair men) and small businesses (eg hairdressers). Federations and business organisations should take responsibility for developing the content of modules specific for their trades (if they have not already done so).
In the medium term (say by early June), satisfactory completion of specific modules by staff might be a requirement for businesses to operate. Initially it should be a recommendation.
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Posted by markcou May 08, 2020 at 10:03
Where working from home is possible is should be maintained, where social distancing can be used these business's should be allowed provided public transport is not required, staff who have to travel by public transport cannot be discriminated against.
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Posted by SC2020 May 08, 2020 at 10:08
People should be allowed to return to offices if this can be maintained and if they are happy to return.
While working from home can be done it’s becoming increasingly difficult and going to work if a lot of peoples happy place away from home.
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Posted by Eng48 May 08, 2020 at 15:21
1) Documented Risk Assessment and Procedures to be put in place c/w a process for measuring compliance in order to ensure "rules" such as Social Distancing, use of PPE including Face Coverings etc are adhered to.
2) ALL Employees are required to disclose whether they have had COVID-19, Tested for COVID-19 and have had Antibody Testing (when a reliable test is available) to their employer. This helps employer to better manage staff and help control any potential spread.
3) ALL Employees to have temperature taken by Employer prior to entering the work premises on a daily basis and if returning from a need to exit and return on the same day.
4) Employers to provide Testing for COVID-19 and Antibody Testing opportunities at their site.
5) Mandatory wearing of Face coverings for all employees and where risk assessment above dictates gloves, PPE etc.
6) ALL work areas to have clear COVID-19 Rules posted, Clear Lines identifying 2m Social distancing both forward/backward and to side.
THE ABOVE SHOULD ALSO BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED & IMPLEMENTED FOR AIRLINES/AIRPORTS/RAIL STATIONS/TRAINS, COACHES/COACH STATIONS - in particular Temperature Testing of passengers and use of some forms of PPE.
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Posted by Sunny34 May 08, 2020 at 21:41
Construction and other work outside should be allowed to resume, with requirements for distancing to be maintained, or for those who need to work closely together e.g. kitchen fitters should be allowed to work more closely with one or two other people, but the people they work with shouldnt change. These industries should open before others.
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Posted by alisond May 09, 2020 at 14:59
I think it would make sense to encourage employers to see what team based solutions, including reasonable readjustment of responsibility, can achieve. People know their own health risks and those of household. Could also ameliorate the mental health risks both for those facing having to attend work when afraid to do so, and for those struggling with working from home (which is really hard and not suitable for some people). All on basis that people should not suffer career wise for expressing a particular preference.
Wouldn't solve all situations but might help. Obviously no use in sectors where everyone really needs to attend work premises.
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Posted by JVL May 09, 2020 at 15:53
It would kickstart the economy whilst allowing a huge number of people to get back to work (and thus ease off the use of the job retention scheme).
It would also allow hundreds of families to move out of temporary accommodation and in to their new homes reducing stress and financial burden.
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Posted by HelenMM May 09, 2020 at 22:42
As one of the major employment sectors in the UK and Scotland hospitality and tourism have already suffered greatly and will plummet even more without further help from the Government to get them up and running again. Considering the amount of people employed in the sector I cannot imagine the Government wanting all of these people to go on benefits as the businesses fail due to no fault of theirs.
Social distancing is a great idea but if you have a cafe with only 5 tables, how are you meant to take 2 -3 of them out in order to facilitate distancing? There is no way that the business can then pay wages, utilities, mortgage etc. We need the Government to come up with actual support for any and all of the advice you will be giving. If your advice will be ppe, make it affordable and readily available - and allow us to purchase it through a government scheme of some sorts. If your advice is social distancing, take into account the falling number of takings and make up the difference. If you want us to install screens between tables etc, provide them or offer contractors whom we can afford without going bankrupt or having to take out another loan. It is great to say restaurants can still do take away but if there are no people as they have all been told to keep away and stay at home, the effort of trying to provide take away services costs more than the sales bring in. If Covid-19 is not that likely to spread outdoors why cannot we open the outdoor seating areas as soon as possible? Spring-summer is when hospitality business usually is able to put some funds aside to get them through the autumn-winter months when the footfall is reduced, now due to Covid-19 that is not happening and jobs are at risk and businesses on the brink of collapse.
Mostly, think about the advice you are giving. Lets say that we reduce our tables, all staff are wearing appropriate ppe, hand sanitizers and hand washing facilities are readily available. All ready to go. And then the Health Minister or whomever will state on tv that we all should still avoid restaurants, cafes etc. And people, who have already been battered and frightened into submission of ever lasting lockdown, will stay away. I admire the Governments resolve not to treat the population as educated individuals that we are. How is it that difficult to say 'do what is right for you but do it safely'?
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Posted by Scotland_is_flatlining May 10, 2020 at 11:18
"Businesses will need to change the way they work, requiring them to operate under strict safe working guidance."
Government can't legislate for this. Higher risk inter-personal engagement by businesses requires appropriate mitigation but it is unrealistic and inappropriate to make maintain a default closure regime. That is the wrong mind-set and Scottish Governement should seek to be supportive in its guidance and trust businesses and their customers and staff to adapt.
The economy needs to re-start and if that means hazmat suits being worn in some environments, the government should encourage this rather than exclude the possibility and declare these businesses closed.
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Posted by Scotswede May 10, 2020 at 12:42
Click and collect is easy to put in place and a manageable way to start trading.
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Posted by wesdec13 May 10, 2020 at 23:44
The working population of Scotland should not be treated like slow-witted children but allowed to be the sensible, thoughtful, practical people that they are and demonstrate that they can work safely and effectively.
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Posted by Prospect May 11, 2020 at 09:20
Maximising wellbeing and supporting positive mental health outcomes should also be prioritised. Easing lockdown cannot mean easing restrictions around work while stringent controls are maintained in everyday life. Workers should feel the benefit of looser controls across all elements of their lives.
Fundamentally, health and safety and wider public health requirements cannot be weighed against the economic needs of businesses. It continues to be a fundamental principle that if work cannot be undertaken safely, it should not be undertaken at all.
Maintaining a high level of homeworking is fundamental for ensuring the success of the wider public health strategy. Every employer, regardless of sector, should seek to maintain the highest possible level of safe homeworking.
The Scottish Government must use data and scientific evidence in a transparent way, issuing clear guidance about when it is possible to return to work. The Government must also take steps to ensure that the Test, Trace, Isolate policy can be effectively applied- which can only happen when the number of cases has dropped. It must also carefully plan for having greater numbers of people at work and traveling to work. Clear guidance for public transport operators on maintaining physical distancing will be essential and this guidance should provide a framework for employers to plan for their specific transport needs.
The Scottish Government should also work with the STUCC to prepare a refreshed joint Fair Work statement for the restart phase.
Employers must only seek to restart their workplaces when they have been advised by the Scottish Government that new cases of the virus are sufficiently under control and safe working practices are agreed, ensuring physical distancing can be maintained in all shared space. Employers must also have in place a clear plan of how workers will travel to and from work safely.
The restart phase does not represent a return to business as usual. What constitutes safe working practice has changed. There are also workers who cannot return to work for health reasons, due to caring responsibilities or because their workplace remains closed. Continued income protection is vital, and employers should implement the principles within the Fair Work statement and maintain workers’ incomes throughout this crisis.
The UK Government must ensure that the job retention scheme and support for the self-employed are maintained and developed in the next phase of the crisis. Rights around sick-pay and self-isolation also need to be maintained.
Preparations must be undertaken now before any restart of the economy takes place. This means that we must have;
1. Capacity for greater testing and a return to contact tracing
Testing has a key role to play in ensuring that the economy can safely function going forward. We cannot begin the restart phase until effective processes for testing and contract tracing are established. This must include:
• greater emphasis on routine testing for key workers;
• a return to community testing;
• a return to contact tracing;
• genuine access to testing.
Prospect believes that to implement these principles effectively greater capacity is needed in both testing and contact tracing. The Scottish Government has now announced an additional 2000 workers will be needed for contact tracing, indicating that these workers will come from other NHS services and local authority environmental health teams. Prospect is concerned that this creates a pinch point around local authority environmental health teams who are now responsible for enforcement of social distancing within workplaces and contact tracing.
Prospect recognises that these are skilled jobs and therefore it is difficult to augment the workforce quickly. But it is essential that workforce issues are resolved and that both contact tracing and enforcement are prioritised.
At present testing is not fit for purpose with key workers struggling to
access tests, no community testing carried out and testing centres often difficult or impossible to get to for many workers. While work has been done to increase capacity and the roll out of home testing is now being planned, genuine access to testing must be assured – including routine tests for key workers – before we enter the next phase.
2. Capacity to supply PPE to non-essential workplaces
There have been clear issues with supply and distribution of PPE for key workers. Yet more PPE will be needed as non-essential workplaces begin to return to operation. There must be:
• Sufficient supply of PPE to supply non-essential workplaces in addition to key workers.
• No disruption of supply chains supporting PPE for key workers.
• Assessment of PPE needs undertaken on a sectoral basis prior to reopening workplaces.
There must be certainty that sufficient PPE is available for all workers before the restart phase can begin.
3. Sectoral Guidance needs to be agreed between unions and employers
Physical distancing will play a role in workplaces for the foreseeable future. This represents a large change to working practice for the majority of workers. It is absolutely essential that health and safety requirements are prioritised. This will protect workers, but it will also protect the employer’s business and the wider economy by guarding against the need for workplaces to close due to infections.
It is vital that unions and employers, supported by the Scottish Government work together to prepare guidance sector by sector which takes a clear health and safety approach. This guidance must be in place prior to any restart of the economy and should clearly set out Fair Work and safe working practices within each sector.
This guidance must include:
• A clear commitment that work will not begin until the ‘R’ number has fallen, in line with scientific advice.
• A commitment to Fair Work including a commitment to protect workers’ incomes when they are shielding, have caring responsibilities or are self-isolating in line with public health advice.
• A requirement to agree COVID 19 risk assessments with union health and safety reps. before the workplace reopens, with time built-in to allow this process to take place.
• Support from the Scottish Government and employers for roving health and safety reps. to support employers across their sector. Health and safety reps. should be able to inspect all companies within their employer’s supply chain and should have right of access to any workplace in their sector in response to concerns raised by a worker in that workplace.
• Clear commitments to health and safety and physical distancing recognising that where physical distancing cannot be implemented PPE will be required. Clear protocols preventing the use of shared tools, hotdesks and other facilities must also be in place prior to the workplace reopening.
• Guidance for employers and unions to consider how shift patterns and rest breaks are organised and any variations that are required to support physical distancing. Employers should also be required to set out how shared space can be used safely, including breakrooms, canteens, toilets, changing areas and smoking areas, ensuring physical distancing is maintained.
• A requirement for high levels of cleanliness within workplaces, including access to hand washing stations or hand sanitiser, and the need for cleaning between shifts and enhanced cleaning of shared areas and frequent touch points.
• A requirement for employers to plan how workers get to and from work within a wider Government led transport strategy.
• A clear reference to enforcement and the wider national enforcement strategy.
• The employers’ duties to support the Test, Trace, Isolate strategy, including support for workers to isolate with no loss of income, and their duties around data collection for public health reasons.
• A recognition that this is an iterative process with a requirement for guidance to be reviewed and updated. Unions should be fully involved and consulted at all stages in this process.
Guidance should also include a duty for employers to support homeworkers particularly as they will be required to continue to work from home for a considerable period. Employers should consider issues of both physical and mental wellbeing, including respect for rest breaks, support for caring duties and a clear demarcation of work and non-work time. It is vital that employers recognise their duties in respect of homeworkers and the increased support that can be provided to them as the lockdown is eased.
4. Effective enforcement measures must be in place.
Effective enforcement of physical distancing rules is absolutely essential.
Local authorities through environmental health officers and the Health and Safety Executive are best placed to lead enforcement activity. However, the capacity for inspection has been undermined by ten years of austerity.
It is therefore essential to maximise the effectiveness and the capacity of these vital institutions. There must be:
• The creation of a national enforcement forum to provide oversight of health and safety and rapid response to issues across the economy. This forum should include the Scottish Government, local authorities, environmental health officers, the HSE, the police and trade unions.
• There should be greater support for the role of union health and safety reps. in the workplace. Steps should also be taken to empower union health and safety reps to support inspection work through the roving health and safety rep. model.
• The Scottish Government should set up a whistle blowing helpline to ensure that every worker in every sector can raise instances of bad practice and know that this will reach the appropriate enforcement agency and be acted upon.
• Action must be taken now to enhance the capacity and number of environmental health officers to support a higher level of inspections. This includes:
o bringing back retired officers as was done during the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow.
o providing funding for local authorities to enhance local environmental health teams whose numbers have been falling year on year due to the impact of austerity and cuts to local government budgets.
o making funding available for a greater number of training places and considering ways to streamline the pathway without reducing the quality of training provided.
5. A continuation of the job retention scheme and other support for those who cannot work.
Coming out of lockdown is likely to be phased. There will be some sectors which must stay closed, while others may open. It is also possible that restrictions may be eased but then reintroduced due to a resurgence of the virus, or that some workplaces may face difficult periods due to falling demand or other knock on impacts in their supply chain. In this context ongoing support for workers firstly by their employer and secondly by both the UK and Scottish Government is essential.
It is essential to:
• maintain the incomes of all those who cannot work throughout this crisis, including those who are shielding, those with caring responsibilities, workers whose workplaces are closed and the self-employed. Employers should be encouraged to implement Fair Work principles.
• create more flexible Government support packages for workers which can underpin short hour working or transitions between work and furlough while maintaining income levels.
Conclusion
Each of these areas are essential and work needs to be undertaken now to deal with the issues raised and ensure that the economy can, at the right time, move to the restart phase. Fundamentally workers, both working at home and in the workplace, need to be protected and supported to work in safe environments and the incomes of those who cannot work should continue to be protected.
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Posted by Cathol May 11, 2020 at 12:52
Why are we not reacting to new evidence, its apparent that the virus is not as deadly to the general, healthy, working age population.
From the stats is quite clear the most at risk groups, we should be focusing on protecting the most vulnerable and encouraging those least at risk to start getting back to normality in a sensible manner.
Many of the populations mental and physical health is deteriorating. Business’s, especially those is the leisure sector, are receiving no assistance and no indication of when they will be allowed to get back to work. Small business’s are being persecuted and many will be forced into liquidation.
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Posted by truescot May 11, 2020 at 12:53
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Posted by RuthBradley May 11, 2020 at 14:55
I run an tourist hostel on the west coast in the Highlands. Im a research scientist. I feel like it has been left to us all to gather best available evidence around safe practices. Though WHO guidelines are emerging.
It is easier and better to keep a sector closed fully rather than half open.
My business is tethering on the brink of collapse as it is and will struggle to survive the winter having lost the main o the 2020 season.
A halfway house of opening conditionally but having those conditions unclear and not easy to implement will not instil confidence in guests or staff.
We need clarity on things like
Can we use the same non-waterproof pillows between guests with only linen being changed?
How long is the layover needed between guests for a room?
Can we keep accepting bookings from international guests for July/August or can ScotGov make a definitive ruling now that no non-essential international travel can happen in 2020.
This ruling would safeguard providers booking through OTAs like Booking.com from incurring original cancellation penalties (need to pay fo nearest appropriate alternate accomodation acceptable to guest not just refund guest).
I know my remote village is not emotionally ready for me to open my 23 bed hostel catering to the NC500 overnight trade.
Clear decisions needed
Can be more nuanced - no to international visitors/ yes to domestic to facilitate track and trace
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Posted by Bethany18 May 11, 2020 at 16:39
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Posted by Scotswede May 11, 2020 at 17:15
Only appointment or booking only/click and collect pick up. This is necessary to allow test trading, limit crowds, limit cars in the road and queues at doors, protects public and importantly, protects staff.
A wide range of shops and businesses could open safely under these guidelines/rules, not just garden centres.
Also - garden centres are not an 'easy' answer - lots of problems with opening them (likely queues, small shop areas, will be used as a day trip out rather than an extension of essential shopping). They are also not the same as a supermarket or B&Q - typically much smaller, cash registers are in small store areas, fewer staff members to manage crowds/social distancing, often rural locations so potential for dangerous queuing on roads.
Garden centres should only be permitted to click and collect.most are doing this successfully already .
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Posted by Cathol May 11, 2020 at 19:49
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Posted by Hep2020 May 11, 2020 at 20:06
Perhaps retail stores could introduce an appointment service whereby customers can book a slot to visit a store to help to restrict the number of customers at any one time.
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Posted by CHill May 11, 2020 at 20:39
I am aware of a workplace where in the run up to Lockdown, despite the obvious dangers of Coronavirus, the Managers completely ignored the matter, did nothing for their staff and didn't mention the Virus at all. They will open in the same vein and will duck the issue if allowed to. These firms exist out there and their complacency is something the staff are all too familiar with.
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Posted by Nmma May 11, 2020 at 20:54
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