Restrict l/down to over 65s and those with health issues
Full lockdown imposed on everyone who is 65 or older. The stats show these are the main people dying. Many are healthy and fitter than 30 year olds but the stats don't lie. This is the group at risk. Anyone with certain health conditions should be forced to abide by lockdown. Yes there is a still a risk for those under 65 and no known health condition but equally this is the same risk as the workers still working in the public right now. It sounds unfair, but is it fair to destroy the lives of so many when there is another way?
Why the contribution is important
It protects the population who are largely at risk. It gets the economy back. It improves the lives of many for which a select few will pay a price of lockdown. It is in the greater interest. Why lockdown everyone and destroy the economy when we know who the main target of this killer is.
by Youwontlikeit on May 08, 2020 at 02:18PM
Posted by Fionabr64 May 08, 2020 at 14:25
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Posted by Sunnysideup May 08, 2020 at 14:28
Need to stop losing perspective of bigger picture and the consequences lockdown has on everyone
Protect the few so that the many can keep the country running and their sanity
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Posted by archiemcbeastie May 08, 2020 at 14:31
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Posted by Elkie May 08, 2020 at 14:31
Maybe a weekly visit to an ICU at hospital should be made compulsory for everyone, so the doctors and nurses are not the only ones who have to watch so many people dying.
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Posted by Julie May 08, 2020 at 14:37
Those who are obese, unfit, drink too much, use drugs etc are at more risk than a fit 65 year old,
The statistics also show that certain groups are at risk regardless of age, do you propose to lock them al down as well?
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Posted by benbristow May 08, 2020 at 14:47
It's not age discrimination, it's backed by evidence and for their own protection.
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Posted by NadineH May 08, 2020 at 14:56
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Posted by John1911 May 08, 2020 at 15:07
For those concerned about equality, I'd say that sheltering advice should be strong, but not enforceable by law. People must have the freedom to chose. Clearly, anyone daft enough in the sheltering groups to put themselves in danger should understand the very real risk, hence the strong advice.
Denying everyone freedom to protect a minority is fundamentally wrong. How long can our government hold us prisoner before compliance collapses? I'd say prepare for larger scale shielding because more groups are vulnerable, and let us go.
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Posted by Zaffarella May 11, 2020 at 17:06
Now that lockdown has gained the time to put capacity in place the “stay safe” narrative will need to change to reflect;
Fatal for less than 1%
Vast majority (over 80%) asymptomatic or mild; relatively few have required hospitalisation.
Current strain is fairly narrow in its target.
People die; in Scotland 4,700 people, on average, each month every year (average 2001-2019 per NRS). There were 1,559 Covid deaths in Scotland as at 2 May. Many of those dying with Covid 19 on the death certificate (but not necessarily a contributory factor) would have died in any event this year.
May never be vaccine; it would wrong and very costly to society at large to wait for one – accordingly we must manage this.
Covid 19 now endemic and should be dealt with like any other perennial virus.
Going forward Covid 19 can be managed by creating capacity (Infectious diseases hospitals?). Unfortunately, those in care homes are amongst the most susceptible to the virus, some form of gateway regime or system for entrance to care homes will be required.
Fitness (substantially issues caused by obesity) makes a massive difference to outcome; this is an opportunity to reinforce that being fit will save lives and the NHS
I am glad to see that the Swedish approach has now been commended by the WHO as an exemplar for moving forward. Although it has controls, it has allowed more social interaction. This approach will certainly have reduced any “future wave”. As at 11 May, the UK (with a population 6.56 times that of Sweden) has had 31,855 deaths. Sweden has recorded 3,225 deaths. That is 66.4% of the UK total. The Swedish approach has to be considered, as it is less damaging to society and the economy at large.
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