Resumption of Golf
Golf is a great source of outdoor exercise and has the ideal conditions to maintain social distancing rules whilst allowing players to participate in a much needed sporting activity.
The R&A have clear guidelines on how to ensure no contact with on course equipment such as the removal of bunker rakes and raised cups on greens to ensure no contact with pin. These measures eliminate physical contact with the exception of each golfers personal equipment.
Other measures to ensure safety:
Clubhouses will of course remain closed
Golf play should be restricted to registered club members only with no visitors allowed
Most club memberships consist of people who live locally keeping travel journeys to a minimum
The R&A have clear guidelines on how to ensure no contact with on course equipment such as the removal of bunker rakes and raised cups on greens to ensure no contact with pin. These measures eliminate physical contact with the exception of each golfers personal equipment.
Other measures to ensure safety:
Clubhouses will of course remain closed
Golf play should be restricted to registered club members only with no visitors allowed
Most club memberships consist of people who live locally keeping travel journeys to a minimum
Why the contribution is important
As our weather improves and more frequent outdoor activity is one of the relaxation measures outlined in the Scottish Government framework for decision making this should be one of the easiest sports to re-introduce with the absolute minimum risk for participants.
It will help greatly in ensuring people can spend valuable time out of doors, be beneficial to people's mental health and well being as well as allowing safe social interaction whilst adhering to the important distancing rules.
It will help greatly in ensuring people can spend valuable time out of doors, be beneficial to people's mental health and well being as well as allowing safe social interaction whilst adhering to the important distancing rules.
by Astron on May 05, 2020 at 01:24PM
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Posted by GolfDuck May 05, 2020 at 18:25
Why is it Ok for our golf courses to be used by walkers and joggers but golfers are not allowed to use the golf course.
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Posted by WillieB May 06, 2020 at 15:21
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Posted by rossmallon1995 May 06, 2020 at 16:09
It’s great for mental health & physical well-being. It’s easy to social distance on a golf course.
I’m all for it....
#BringBackGolf
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Posted by locoantonio7 May 06, 2020 at 16:20
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Posted by Ca11um May 06, 2020 at 16:20
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Posted by Dyet92 May 06, 2020 at 16:26
Great exercise and mental health benefits as well, not to mention avoiding clubs closing permanently from lack of revenue.
Open the courses.
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Posted by Llebdivad May 06, 2020 at 16:46
David Bell
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Posted by ardee1312 May 06, 2020 at 18:38
I do think members only has to be the rule, as there are, simply, not enough times available to accommodate extra traffic.
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Posted by markf497 May 06, 2020 at 19:27
Easiest sport to social distance and get some exercise.
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Posted by alisond May 07, 2020 at 00:23
Never seen the point in golf myself but completely agree that it's low risk and apparently would make lots of folks much happier which is a good thing.
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Posted by Sashleah May 07, 2020 at 11:15
Very rarely will you be in a position to be near your playing partners as you need to stay back when someone else is taking their shot and you do not walk right next to each other for the majority of the round.
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Posted by campbellgjc61 May 07, 2020 at 12:44
The R&A, PGA, SGU and Bigga have all put guidelines in place to ensure that all risk is minimised when golfing .
We need to get the golf courses open again.
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Posted by ContraryJoe May 07, 2020 at 13:55
Take one golfer who has the virus and is currently asymptomatic but can pass that virus to others. That person arrives in a crowded car park with others getting ready to play and passing to the first tee and from the eighteen green (albeit attempting to exercise social distancing). That person enters the clubhouse to use the toilet facilities, gets a coffee from the coffee machine, goes to the Pros Shop to buy a ball and pays by cash, tries out a couple of the clubs on show, purchases a bottle of water from a vending machine. These are all very typical activities that a golfer might engage in while visiting the golf club but, through those actions that one person will infect multiple other people. In turn those people will distribute that virus to multiple other locations potentially in a widespread distribution of communities - our own club has members from the Lothians, Central and Fife regions. I would argue that such an outbreak would rapidly become impossible to track, trace and treat. That one single golfer, at one golf club, could inadvertently be responsible for creating an outbreak that would require Scotland to lock down again - potentially for an even longer period of time depending on the rate and distribution of spread.
Even if golf clubs completely close clubhouses and pros shops (and will they actually do so if courses are open, golfers are allowed to play, demanding facilities and clubs and their professionals are desperate for revenue?) there is still some risk from the congregation of members around the clubhouse and car park before and after play.
I can see an argument that the risk is similar to going to the supermarket where social distancing cannot always be perfect and there is a risk of touching surfaces that others may have infected. However, the difference I see in terms of risk is that people are shopping very locally and an infection is also likely to be local and therefore easier to isolate, trace and treat. With golfers potentially travelling to and from much wider geographical locations, the risk is higher of a widespread infection that will prove impossible to isolate to one community and very difficult to trace and treat. Going to the supermarket is an essential activity to sustain life. Does the same apply to golf?
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Posted by cammie May 07, 2020 at 14:06
This is a great exercise and golfers can enjoy the game while using distancing rules.
Support the game Scotland is famous for.
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Posted by JohnB May 07, 2020 at 14:22
I would also limit the numbers of participants to maximum 3 balls and 10 minute intervals.
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Posted by Sanchez87 May 07, 2020 at 14:38
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Posted by golfnutpeter May 07, 2020 at 15:22
I feel in playing golf it is far easier to maintain social distancing than going to a supermarket or B&Q.
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Posted by ContraryJoe May 08, 2020 at 10:48
“Sweetheart”, I said, “I know that thousands of people are still catching the virus and hundreds are dying from it every day and we have bemoaned the fact that our incompetent government has failed, even yet, to put in place the necessary measures to monitor and deal with new outbreaks. However, I think this is just the right moment for me to meet up for four hours at a time with people from other places that might have a higher prevalence of Covid-19 and may even have the disease themselves, to take part in an exercise that is completely non- essential and will bring no financial benefit to either the club that I visit or the wider economy as a whole. But, listen, Darling, it could provide an added bonus. I could bring the virus back to our home to make the whole family seriously ill, that in turn will place additional stress on the NHS. Potentially that illness could lead to organ damage, long-term health problems or potentially even death.”
Guess what? The wife said,
“Yes dear, that’s OK”.
However, she did add,
“Provided that first, you self-isolate, as far away as possible, for the rest of our lives!”.
Perhaps other golfers would care to have a similar conversation with their nearest and dearest.
The prevalence of the virus in our communities is still at a level that means a lifting of restrictions will lead to spikes in infection and I believe that we do not yet have the means to monitor and control those hotspots when they arise.
There will come a time for reducing restrictions and allowing golf under controlled conditions and I look forward to those days. Unfortunately, now is not the time.
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Posted by JoeyJambo May 08, 2020 at 12:26
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Posted by simonnorris May 08, 2020 at 13:54
I started a petition just over a week ago and it already has 1360 signatures.
Please have a look - change.org/PlayGolfAgain
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Posted by Tara May 08, 2020 at 18:31
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Posted by at51golf May 08, 2020 at 23:19
The self discipline and manners of the game lend themselves to successfully adhering to safe play.
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Posted by Fendog81 May 09, 2020 at 09:55
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Posted by ContraryJoe May 09, 2020 at 13:32
First, please let me explain that I am not arguing that we should never return to golf until everyone has been vaccinated and I accept that, at an appropriate point, we will have to resume normal activities, albeit with changes to the way we do them, and accept an element of risk exists wherever we go and whatever we do. However, I am clear that before we do so, the virus needs to be under control (I.e. low levels of new cases and deaths) and the measures are in place to track, trace and treat new infections. Sadly, as I write, this is still far from the case. Until that point, I am concerned about the argument that golf can resume whatever the conditions as I am forced to regard golf as a non-essential activity that still carries risk of spreading infection.
1. 6 feet enough for social distancing? MIT researcher says droplets carrying coronavirus can travel up to 27 feet
https://eu.usatoday.com/[…]/
The latest research by a leading expert (Lydia Bourouiba) of MIT indicates that a virus can be transmitted over a distance of 27 feet. Yes, that’s 9 yards. It is necessary to point out that there is a considerable debate among the experts about what constitutes a ‘safe’ distance and that the virus can be dangerous at 27 feet is not accepted by all. Please check out the link included above for a quick, simple, short-hand summary on the latest thinking.
Others, such as USA Today that attempt to question the distance recommendations with organisations such as the WHO and CDC are either ignored or provided with stock responses pointing to scientific guidance that provides support for the current recommendations (also see article in the link). I conclude (my opinion) that these organisations do not wish to engage in discussion over the possibility that the recommendations are not adequate as they understand that asking people to separate by more than 2 metres will prove to be totally impractical.
2 metres has been selected as it provides the minimum distance that affords some protection and the maximum distance that is practical to observe in the majority of cases.
Combine this with other research that has found the Covid-19 virus is detectable in the air for up to 3 hours after deposition then the message for me is clear:
2 metres does not guarantee safety.
2. Increased duration between tee times
Although this appears to be a sensible idea to avoid congestion and assist the observance of social distancing, I believe it could actually cause problems. For example, take those who are still working and have limited time to golf. When they find that the non-golfers have taken up all the available tee times on the only occasions they can play, I imagine they will not be best pleased. Filled by a sense of entitlement and injustice, I envisage they will still go to the golf club on spec and will push in to play between the extended official tee times. This may result in a lot of argie-bargie, but, more important in this context, it means the possibility of congestion and a break down in social distancing.
3. The Closed Clubhouse
When a non-golfer hears about a ‘closed’ clubhouse their obvious assumption is that the clubhouse will be completely off limits, locked and with no possibility of access. However, the golfers concept of a ‘closed’ clubhouse is completely different. This is clearly apparent from some of the other posts that can be found under ‘Golf’ topics on this site where there is a clear and explicitly stated assumption that golfers will still have access to locker rooms and toilets. This is particularly true for those (I estimate 30-50% of the members at most clubs) who keep their golf equipment in locker rooms that, in most cases, form part of the main clubhouse. Access to the locker room provides access to toilets. Access to toilets will, in many clubhouses, provide access to other club rooms, perhaps with facilities such as hot/cold drinks machines, food vending machines, gaming machines, pool table, darts board, decks of cards, dominoes, board games and books. The only things that are ‘closed’ in this scenario are the bar and catering facilities. Otherwise, this ‘closed’ clubhouse is an open playground for the deposition and transfer of the Covid-19 virus. Even restriction to just the locker room still provides opportunity for transfer of the virus as in most clubs it is necessary to gain access to the locker room by punching security keypad buttons and using the one and only handle to open the door.
Let’s consider the club that decides it will completely close the clubhouse. That still leaves up to half the membership with their clubs in the locker room. Suppose the club says to those members, “we’re going to close the clubhouse but you have this two day period in which to remove your clubs”. Now suppose that the first person that goes to the club to retrieve their clubs is a highly infectious, asymptomatic virus carrier, who like everyone else, punches their access code into the keypad and opens the locker room door depositing the virus, that, according to recent studies of Covid-19 transmission, can remain detectable on surfaces for up to 72 hours. It seems to me not just possible but highly likely that many of the people coming after that first infected person who will touch those same surfaces will contract the disease. I assume it may be possible to mitigate this problem by using open doors with manned access, mandatory use of hand sanitizers for each person and frequent disinfecting. However, will all golf clubs recognise the steps necessary and implement them effectively?
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Posted by EH92020 May 09, 2020 at 21:03
Probably worth weighing up that with the greater number of the general public who are able to use these courses to exercise and avoid the overcrowded parks and open spaces in our cities.
That"s all our families and friends.
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