Scotland Being Left Behind Again!

So it looks like we are going to be left behind England and, while their citizens may be happily mixing with families and friends, we are stuck at home suffering because we are run by Nanny State politicians and a leader who can't bear to agree with the 'auld enemy', even though all the stats are screaming at her that its time to take the next step. Come on Nicola, be a proper leader and make a decision based on the facts and not on the politics.

Why the contribution is important

We need to start coming out of lockdown and get some people back to work and get the economy going. We are already going to pay a high price for the damage done so far, let's not make it any worse than it has to be. Yes more people will die from the virus but what about the people we are not counting that are dying and will continue to die from the economic impact all over the world. If you want to pay higher income taxes and higher prices for goods and services then carry on, alternately lets get the balance right.

by Churchill on May 10, 2020 at 04:20PM

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  • Posted by SteveR57 May 10, 2020 at 16:45

    Nonsense. If we need to go until the end of the month then so be it. The mixed messages from England recently are striking from Westminster. The Sturgeon approach is clear and unambiguous

  • Posted by Margaret May 10, 2020 at 17:04

    With the current R number in scotland, it would be inadvisable to relax restrictions too early. England is slightly ahead so they may be able to relax some rules. I would rather have a slight raise on my taxes than worry about whether my elderly parents or friends with cancer were safe.

  • Posted by MARshd May 10, 2020 at 17:05

    I would tend to agree with the original comment. Even before the current crisis Scotland was most definitely becoming a Nanny State with our right to choose being eroded by the Scottish Government. That being said, we should be moving forward as a united 4 Nations and thereby avoiding any mixed messages. Put politics aside.

  • Posted by BSL May 10, 2020 at 17:07

    I agree entirely with the original poster.

  • Posted by Pumpkin2017 May 10, 2020 at 17:11

    Westminster are well and truly jumping the gun. I'd much rather we held back a bit, saved more lives and protected the NHS. Yes it's time we started to make plans and work out a clear way forward. Nicola Sturgeon holding back and watching the Wednesday statistics on the number of deaths each week is making a decision based on facts not politics. We need to see a trend over a few weeks to be certain we're on the right track.

  • Posted by Julie May 10, 2020 at 17:13

    Westminster have not even made the announcement for England yet so how do you know what they are going to say? Wales is also doing what is best for their population.

  • Posted by JLMBD May 10, 2020 at 17:47

    I can't believe I have to say this again. Scotland is lagging behind England in the outbreak so the response also has to lag behind and the easing of lockdown should be done when the time is right for Scotland. Geographically Scotland is different from England and needs different responses. Johnson is a unclear as it gets. "Stay Alert" means "do whatever you want and I'll blame you when it all goes to hell". What level of avoidable deaths do you consider to be acceptable? And would you impose your opinion on others or would be like a nanny state?

  • Posted by anony May 10, 2020 at 18:23

    Reject this proposal. Continue to follow the science and provide unequivocal guidance that is simple and easy to understand. Coming out of lockdown too quickly will cost lives and put us back into lockdown.

  • Posted by VMcCann May 10, 2020 at 19:27

    Things need to start moving. People will need to come out of lockdown and the sooner the better. The NHS is now in a good place and running efficiently . Continue to look after the vulnerable and let others get back to normal. And not the new normal a normal where people are not afraid of each other and kids are not washing their hand raw for fear of virus.

  • Posted by Stenny May 10, 2020 at 21:01

    Nicola Sturgeon has bee absolutely amazing throughout this difficult time if we are behind England for our safety well so be it, I and many many others say the lockdown should continue for as long as it takes. Well done Nicola Sturgeon for sticking by the scientific evidence and keeping Scotland Safe. I'am so very proud to be Scottish. Thank you for being a fantastic leader at what must be a very challenging time for decision making. Keep up the good work.

  • Posted by CatK22 May 10, 2020 at 21:05

    Perhaps you should have waited to hear the actual annoncement.

  • Posted by MikeJohnston May 10, 2020 at 21:15

    Sad fact is that Scotland is at least three weeks behind England on TTT/TTIS. Pathetic but true. So we're all stuck at home, indefinitely. Better there than dead all the same.

  • Posted by LesleyEM May 10, 2020 at 21:21

    Reject this proposal. Scotland’s at an earlier stage of the infection curve and Scot Gov being entirely sensible in showing caution. Latest polls show that there is very strong support for caution in the easing of lockdown. This caution will undoubtedly save lives.

  • Posted by Elkie May 10, 2020 at 21:59

    People in England who cannot work from home are to be encouraged to go back to work tomorrow. Also tomorrow, businesses are going to get advise on how to provide their employees with a safe working environment. Impressive, if they get that done, before these employees arrive. It might work, though, because people are advised against using public transport. Well thought out. I did not listen to the complete announcement, so I wouldn't know. But did parents who fall into the category of "cannot work from home" any advice on what to do with their children? Because schools wisely are going to be closed for a few more weeks.

  • Posted by phillipa May 10, 2020 at 22:03

    Fully agree with this proposal. More lives will be lost due to economic downturn and businesses going bust. We need to take a risk management approach to this societal threat. Wonder if the people wanting this lockdown to continue will feel the same when jobs are lost and poverty rises.

  • Posted by annecampbell May 10, 2020 at 22:09

    Nonsense, we are behind England in the trends- R level and infection rate still too high

  • Posted by Churchill May 10, 2020 at 22:11

    I am saddened but not surprised by some of the responses which indicate people are content with a passive 'follow the science' attitude. That is a derogation of duty to make the best out of a very worrying and difficult situation. To 'wait and see' is to watch our children's education damaged, see young people trying to get started in life lose their jobs and their homes, see our communities in poverty, see our industries die, see our families in debt. Lets get after the real issue which is maintaining the health and welfare of all society.

  • Posted by Lorraine10 May 10, 2020 at 23:15

    Absolutely not! We are at a different stage of the infection curve! We started later and we will leave later, get used to that fact. If people had not flouted the rules the rise would probably have reduced quicker. Stop focusing on the R number and the exact figure of being between 0.7 & 1. Look at the basic new infections each day. We have quite simply been bouncing around between 4000 & 6000 new cases each day since 31st March.. we are on The lower end, as in just below that now and we need the decline to continue not rise as it has been doing. If it does then possibly we might get more restrictions lifted soon. So do as you’re all told, stay at home and save lives , it’s quite simple. The more you breach the rules the longer we will all be doing this. Stay positive this won’t last forever and we could possibly be following England soon.

  • Posted by JuliaM May 11, 2020 at 08:24

    Disagree. The data shows that we came into this epidemic later than England so will come out of this later. We can also learn from the experiences of easing lockdown of England & other countries & witness the effect on infection transmission.

  • Posted by Zaffarella May 11, 2020 at 16:46

    I fully appreciate there are difficult choices, however, social distancing continued much longer will ultimately kill more people than Covid 19 and certainly kill society. Government must be greatest good for greatest number. Now that lockdown has gained the time to put capacity in place the “stay safe” narrative will need to change to reflect; Fatal for less than 1% Vast majority (over 80%) asymptomatic or mild; relatively few have required hospitalisation. Current strain is fairly narrow in its target. People die; in Scotland 4,700 people, on average, each month every year (average 2001-2019 per NRS). There were 1,559 Covid deaths in Scotland as at 2 May. Many of those dying with Covid 19 on the death certificate (but not necessarily a contributory factor) would have died in any event this year. May never be vaccine; it would wrong and very costly to society at large to wait for one – accordingly we must manage this. Covid 19 now endemic and should be dealt with like any other perennial virus. Going forward Covid 19 can be managed by creating capacity (Infectious diseases hospitals?). Unfortunately, those in care homes are amongst the most susceptible to the virus, some form of gateway regime or system for entrance to care homes will be required. Fitness (substantially issues caused by obesity) makes a massive difference to outcome; this is an opportunity to reinforce that being fit will save lives and the NHS I am glad to see that the Swedish approach has now been commended by the WHO as an exemplar for moving forward. Although it has controls, it has allowed more social interaction. This approach will certainly have reduced any “future wave”. As at 11 May, the UK (with a population 6.56 times that of Sweden) has had 31,855 deaths. Sweden has recorded 3,225 deaths. That is 66.4% of the UK total. The Swedish approach has to be considered, as it is less damaging to society and the economy at large.

  • Posted by Scotland_is_flatlining May 11, 2020 at 17:14

    Scotland being held back by the Nanny State. Align with the UK in a joined up approach to move forward. The current approach is heightening fear.
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