Sweden approach

I seriously think we should be looking at the approach and policy . We may never get a vaccine (HIV) House arrest and removal of civil rights won’t change the course of the virus

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We are losing our civil rights. There has been NO peer scrutiny

by emwpaisley on May 05, 2020 at 06:29PM

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  • Posted by Garywall8787 May 05, 2020 at 18:33

    100% agreed
  • Posted by lindyloo May 05, 2020 at 18:37

    Totally agree. What is the point of keeping us all inside to prolong the life of people when people arent getting quality of life. Treat us like adults. If we want a haircut, take the family to the cinema or have a coffee with friends then let us decide. If we think the risk is too great we will stay indoors. The effects of lockdown on our mental and physical health is going to cause more problems in the long term then the virus ever will.
  • Posted by ODIN1265 May 05, 2020 at 18:40

    Sweden have got it right. and in UK especially Scotland we seem content to run business into the ground. we must get everyone back to work. people in this country need to take responsibility for there own health instead of relying on a nanny state.
  • Posted by Hamsterpus May 05, 2020 at 19:00

    Sweden has demonstrated sensible social distancing and will reach herd immunity before other countries. Death rate in Sweden is half that of Scotland but no lockdown
  • Posted by HanaNeish May 05, 2020 at 19:36

    Totally agree with this. There are case studies present (NZ, Sweden, Germany, South Korea) where the virus has been kept within control, without compromising the wellbeing of citizens, their health service or the economy. There needs to be a revisit to the current approach and a look towards the countries who have shown a more effective way of dealing with the virus for all.
  • Posted by BruceE May 05, 2020 at 19:50

    I agree. We should be now be allowed to make our own decisions on many more matters. We have learned the value of social distancing and so would be able to maintain this dicipline without the need for legal enforecement.
  • Posted by ajan May 05, 2020 at 20:10

    NZ did so well because they shut their border?
  • Posted by SST May 07, 2020 at 06:49

    NZ now has no immunity so this will mean they stay in lockdown ? Therefore for longer. No one on no one out for ever ?
  • Posted by SST May 07, 2020 at 06:50

    Also there no proof that getting there virus offers immunity -According to the WHO .
  • Posted by SST May 07, 2020 at 07:02

    Show more coverage of people suffocating to death and maybe people may realise this is not just flu!

    Re schools
    Young children may not be dying but they are germ ridden and May potentially pass on disease which will kill their loved ones.

    Teenagers and some adults do not know how to self distance look at the data !
    People mix get sick then die easing things up will flood the nhs and be 10 times worse!
    Open you ears and eyes and stop being selfish the SG are doing their very best. Cut them some slack!
    The SG are doing well
  • Posted by Stewart20 May 07, 2020 at 21:41

    SST - respectfully, whilst a lot of people online are saying it is just the flu, none of the above comments are saying that.
    It has a significantly higher mortality rate than the flu. However, it is not going to go away even if we lock up the population for another six months and there may not be a vaccine for years. Prioritise our limited resources to protect the vulnerable. The overwhelming majority of people under the age of 50 will suffer only minor effects from the virus.
  • Posted by golightly May 09, 2020 at 21:05

    Agree, with their limited restrictions they are supporting their economy, mental and emotional health is still good and their death rates are not high.
  • Posted by tapestry7829 May 09, 2020 at 23:10

    Agree with this, Sweden seems to have got this right - as with most other things
  • Posted by Outis May 11, 2020 at 14:31

    I agree but I also think we need to be very careful when comparing countries. The population density, healthcare systems, social structures etc vary considerably between countries.
    And therefore, we cannot expect the exact same outcome from choosing the same approach.

    However, on the medium-to longer-term, an approach similar to Sweden's will be much more feasible and endurable for people and the economy.
    We will need to adapt to the current situation and Sweden has proven a good example of a compromise between keeping infections at a manageable level without shutting down life and the economy altogether.

    It might be a good idea to advance towards the Swedish model in stages, i.e. open up shops, restaurants, pubs etc stepwise with 2 or 3 weeks between the previous and the next step to monitor their impact before making the next step.
  • Posted by Zaffarella May 11, 2020 at 17:22

    I fully appreciate there are difficult choices, however, social distancing continued much longer will ultimately kill more people than Covid 19 and certainly kill society. Government must be greatest good for greatest number.
    Now that lockdown has gained the time to put capacity in place the “stay safe” narrative will need to change to reflect;
    Fatal for less than 1%
    Vast majority (over 80%) asymptomatic or mild; relatively few have required hospitalisation.
    Current strain is fairly narrow in its target.
    People die; in Scotland 4,700 people, on average, each month every year (average 2001-2019 per NRS). There were 1,559 Covid deaths in Scotland as at 2 May. Many of those dying with Covid 19 on the death certificate (but not necessarily a contributory factor) would have died in any event this year.
    May never be vaccine; it would wrong and very costly to society at large to wait for one – accordingly we must manage this.
    Covid 19 now endemic and should be dealt with like any other perennial virus.
    Going forward Covid 19 can be managed by creating capacity (Infectious diseases hospitals?). Unfortunately, those in care homes are amongst the most susceptible to the virus, some form of gateway regime or system for entrance to care homes will be required.
    Fitness (substantially issues caused by obesity) makes a massive difference to outcome; this is an opportunity to reinforce that being fit will save lives and the NHS
    I am glad to see that the Swedish approach has now been commended by the WHO as an exemplar for moving forward. Although it has controls, it has allowed more social interaction. This approach will certainly have reduced any “future wave”. As at 11 May, the UK (with a population 6.56 times that of Sweden) has had 31,855 deaths. Sweden has recorded 3,225 deaths. That is 66.4% of the UK total. The Swedish approach has to be considered, as it is less damaging to society and the economy at large.
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