UK wide transition

all transition measures should be UK wide with no differences.

Why the contribution is important

We are one country and should have 1 set of principles for moving out of lockdown.

by Henretty on May 06, 2020 at 12:12AM

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  • Posted by Janmat1724 May 06, 2020 at 01:47

    The spread of the virus is not even throughout the UK. There has to be some leeway to allow areas that have been less affected and whose infection rate has fallen very low to start to locally undo lockdown. Allowing small local businesses to open again with strict distancing rules. Schools likewise. While still prohibiting travel from other areas.

  • Posted by Janmat1724 May 06, 2020 at 01:50

    There's no way one single set of rules from Westminster or Holyrood can be applied to every area. A general 'not before' parameter of conditions to be met can be applied but not specifics.

  • Posted by JSinclair2020 May 06, 2020 at 02:22

    I disagree. When we get out of this lockdown phase, we need to be able to respond in the future to hotspots across the whole of the UK as they develop. So it is unreasonable to adopt a dogmatic "no difference" approach.

  • Posted by Harrysmammy May 06, 2020 at 02:39

    Agree. Remove the Nationalist rhetoric. Should be the UK against the virus end of

  • Posted by scotjs May 06, 2020 at 03:02

    That's not how it works though. We have a devolved government and separate NHS.
    Also, judging by the looks of the UK government, I wouldn't like to be led by them.
    Pretty much everything that the UK government has been doing has been copied from Scotland after Scotland's come up with it.

  • Posted by Samof3 May 06, 2020 at 07:36

    Considering Boris Johnson, put the nation at risk with ‘herd immunity’, an NHS that relies on a 100 year old doing laps in his garden and there’s no PPE. With 26000 deaths, I’m following Scotland .

  • Posted by karlasmith May 06, 2020 at 08:16

    Definitely not. Scotland has different demographic so needs a tailored approach. Definitely not one size fits all.

  • Posted by MargaretR19 May 06, 2020 at 08:22

    There requires to be different solutions for different areas even within Scotland. The overall Framework for Scotland can be the same but some timings may be different..for example a small local rural school may be able to reopen while it would be more difficult for a large city centre comprehensive

  • Posted by Louisethomson20 May 06, 2020 at 08:22

    Don t agree. What works for one area is not necessarily right for another area at the same time.

  • Posted by ElBee May 06, 2020 at 08:23

    No, we are a union of individual countries, hence the name.

    What is effective in London may not be in Orkney, and vice versa. It would be misguided to simply follow along with any and all changes suggested by WM.

  • Posted by Rob May 06, 2020 at 08:24

    Oh dear... So if Westminster decides we should all drink the coolade we should follow.

  • Posted by Belladonna May 06, 2020 at 08:38

    Why? Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England are all having very different levels of community infection, and we are all at different stages of the virus. We seem to be told that England has already passed the peak, but Scotland is likely still in the epicentre of this. If this is indeed the case, there is no value in 1 set of principles moving forward, as they will not apply with nations being at different points in the curve.

    Also, these 4 nations have very different economic and social make ups. Any move to take people out of lockdown needs to consider the differences, as well as the similarities. Let's not also ignore the fact that each of these nations has governments who hold the power for devolved responsibilities - why should their right to govern over these areas be removed?

  • Posted by Wheat May 06, 2020 at 08:54

    We are one country and should be guided by Westminster with regards to lock down

  • Posted by Scotland_is_flatlining May 06, 2020 at 09:07

    We need a consistent approach for the whole UK. Holyrood doesn’t have the resources or means to establish closed borders. We don’t need the Scottish Ministers tinkering at the edges and obscuring the important messages.

    We are seeing the disadvantages of the disconnected approach with Scotland setting unambitious testing targets and planning to defer the introduction of Test, Track and Trace approach by 2 weeks.

  • Posted by Golfer May 06, 2020 at 09:15

    One set of guidelines and consistent approach across UK. Typical example is NHS App - why wouldn’t we use this in Scotland rather than developing our own approach?
    Stop the grandstanding from our FM. It’s a bit silly that she tries to pre-empt the UK govt announcements and plans etc given the virus in Scotland is 7-10 days behind the most of the UK in terms of position on life-cycle. Surely a better approach is to watch and follow, learning from mistakes, rather than coming out with stuff well before it’s actually needed?

  • Posted by kezzy08 May 06, 2020 at 09:33

    Scotland has a different mix of communities and locations from the rest of the UK and will benefit from being able to manage its own way out of this pandemic. However it needs to be done within overall UK national guidelines and not used as a way for the Nats to gain leverage.

  • Posted by Frances May 06, 2020 at 09:38

    As a devolved govt we are entitled to and should do things differently if it is better for Scotland. I do not agree FM is grandstanding at all and she has said frequently this is not a time for politicising .I agree there will be geographical differences and what works for London may not be the best thing for other areas .

  • Posted by noeldarlow May 06, 2020 at 12:21

    Different parts of the UK may have very good epidemiological reasons for following different isolation policies. London is rather different to Skye, for example in terms of numbers, connectivity, and medical facilities.

    Once cases are at a low level, the next step is be to cautiously relax social isolation rules and begin a program of mass testing & contact tracing. Various localised outbreaks would flare up from time but testing & tracing might allow us identify and then contain them by introducing strict social isolation measures in specific areas.

    Demands for a single, one-size-fits-all policy appear to be politically-motivated and therefore should be ignored. This is a national emergency.

  • Posted by Brett May 06, 2020 at 19:57

    UK wide restrictions are desirable only if they are fit for purpose. The stance of Scot Gov throughout has been the right one. Collaborate where this is possible but act differently when required. I have full trust in Scot Gov but my support isn't fundamentalist. Continue to be candid and open to our new normal. Following a course of action that you believed to be wrong would be unforgivable. This is true of the entire UK. Be proud of your actions because they are reasonable responsible and reliable.

  • Posted by emmasmith May 07, 2020 at 01:11

    Completely disagree. Westminster is an absolute shambles so if scotgov decides they need to go another way I'm 100% behind them.

  • Posted by Wulan19 May 08, 2020 at 13:28

    Completely disagree too. We need to enable areas to get back to normal as fast as they can not hindered by the slowest of the regions (not countries), travel between regions should be discouraged, and areas that are free of the virus should be allowed their freedom. Regions that have presumably worked hard and complied with the rules deserve the rewards. Anyway fairness isn't really priority, it's getting the economy back up and running that's important. The government handouts, that are still to be paid for, is masking the financial problems that are building each day of this lockdown.

  • Posted by Julie May 08, 2020 at 15:45

    So we all move at the rate of London even if that makes no sense with regard to what is happening with the virus, that would not be helpful. Other countries (who are not a union of 4 nations, we are. It and have never been one country) have locked and unlocked regions as required eg Italy.

    Doing anything else is just politics, not dealing with the virus.

  • Posted by wnobrien May 09, 2020 at 21:30

    The U.K. should have a consistent approach to returning to the new normal, but should be based on geographic evidence of the spreading of virus (number of cases and deaths) that is reviewed every week, not every three weeks.
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