Charging

Section 59 of the Aquaculture and Fisheries (Scotland) Act 2013 enables Ministers to make provision in regulations to impose charges in connection with the carrying out of specified fisheries functions. Ministers intend making an administration charge for the processing of the application, including any appeal process – this will be on a cost recovery basis The licence application cost will be the same for everyone although the charge may vary from year to year . The component parts of the charge will be clearly explained and available on the Marine Scotland webpage in due course. Payment of the charge must be made up front before consideration of the application.

There will be a further charge for the administration of the carcass tagging scheme and a charge per tag. This is likely to be on a sliding scale basis.

What implications do you think making a charge for the application and tags will have for applicants?

Why the contribution is important

This is the first time the charging powers under the 2013 Act have been used and we understand that this requires some detailed explanation and that it will attract some comment.

by LockhartL on July 22, 2015 at 04:54PM

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  • Posted by Greenheart July 23, 2015 at 12:45

    Why a sliding charge scale and how would this be arranged? Do you envisage the more kill tags one applies for the cheaper they are individually? A reducing sliding scale disproportionately favours those who kill more fish, something I feel should be avoided.

    I would actually advocate that the cost of tags should rise rapidly for multiple tags purchased by any individual.
  • Posted by Greenheart July 23, 2015 at 13:20

    "Payment of the charge must be made up front before consideration of the application."

    This will create a substantial administrative and financial burden for authorities, fisheries and anglers alike. Unsuccessful applicants will have to be refunded.

    Surely it would be better to make a very small non refundable charge for the application which could easily be done online and the draw done by ballot. The successful applicants could be charged tag cost if they go on to take up their successful bid. That way only successful applicants would pay, no refunds would be required and any successful applicants who decided not to take up their tags would be adding to stock conservation.
  • Posted by marinescotland3 July 23, 2015 at 17:30

    The Scottish Government has outlined the basis for the introduction of a kill licence. What additional research do you consider needs to be done and why?
  • Posted by bradan July 23, 2015 at 20:14

    We really need to see the propsed thinking on this before we can comment effectively. How much will the tags cost? How on earth will a local club know how many to bid for? What happens if the predicted run fails snd so the number of salmon to kill is not available? How will a club distribute kill tags amongst members and visitors? And how will the tags then be monitored and recorded? This is an administrative nightmare for small clubs.
  • Posted by Greenheart July 23, 2015 at 21:10

    I, like most salmon anglers I know, enjoy taking home the occasional fish. If I am lucky enough to catch a fresh one and I feel the circumstances permit it, (e.g. numbers being caught that season on that river, the time of year, sex of the fish and it's condition) I think it reasonable to be allowed to kill one.

    I fish a fair bit on various beats on different rivers throughout Scotland and I probably average one kill per year out of perhaps a dozen fish caught. Where that fish will be next year I haven't a clue. Am I supposed to forego that pleasure, which certainly plays a considerable part in my enjoyment of the sport, because it will be impractical and unaffordable to buy multiple kill licences for the remote possibility that one may be used on a particular beat on a particular day?
  • Posted by par2164 July 24, 2015 at 10:04

    I would like to see any evidence that supports the theory that rod caught salmon is impacting on stock levels to the extent that a kill licence will make a difference.
  • Posted by EdBere July 24, 2015 at 11:07

    Will the charge for killing a salmon be universal, that is, the same for an angler as a netsman or vice versa?
  • Posted by rivermanager July 24, 2015 at 11:10

    I have posted an alternative idea on charging on the ideas page that will have a far more positive outcome than anything suggested so far
  • Posted by Pharma July 24, 2015 at 16:50

    How can anyone comment on impacts of the charges until they know the precise costs? Simply saying this information will be made available in due course makes it appear either that you haven't even thought this through or that you have and are scared to reveal the costs until the bill gets passed. If you cannot provide details then at least give us a rough estimate of cost. Will it be £100 (application and admin fee) then £5 per tag or £1000 (application and admin fee) and £50 per tag, or will it be more than this ?.
  • Posted by tweedfisher July 26, 2015 at 11:22

    It is fairly obvious, that the way this legislation is proposed to be implemented, it is deliberately designed to discourage the application in the first place, leading to the ultimate objective, as admitted by Thin, of 100% C&R across the whole of Scotland.
    Fairly simple to work out really, price the angler out of their legitame right to kill a fish.

    The aquaculture industry must be rubbing their hands with glee. Fairly soon the only salmon available for consumption in Scotland will be one of their toxic slob fish, that have been responsible for the death of more salmon than all the anglers put together since time began!

    It's an absolute disgrace. Doesn't it make you proud to be Scottish? 😡😡
  • Posted by Piscator July 26, 2015 at 23:56

    Marine Scotland,

    as asked by Greenheart, by a sliding scale do you mean that the more tags you apply for the less you pay per tag or is it the other way around?

    Also, will it be the case that given the exercise will largely be conducted for the whole country irrespective of who applies, the cost of that will basically be split between all the applicants? So if more people apply it will cost each less and vice versa?
  • Posted by Deesider July 27, 2015 at 22:37

    Marine Scotland - as asked previously, please clarify the thoughts around a sliding scale? I also hope that should any scale be introduced, the intention is for cost/tag to increase proportionately to the tags awarded.

    Presumably tags will cost the same for both net and rod fisheries?
  • Posted by marinescotland4 July 28, 2015 at 17:21

    It is currently proposed that the costs for tags will increase depending on the number – the higher the number the more it would cost. Charges would be the same for both rods and nets.
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