Disincentive to work

If everyone is entitled automatically to a minimum level of state support, then where is the incentive for anyone to work?

Why the contribution is important

Work is beneficial.

by Edinburgher on August 19, 2021 at 02:08PM

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  • Posted by MaryCM August 19, 2021 at 19:44

    MIG should only be available to people after every single full and part time job available locally has been filled. People should be expected to make some effort to help themselves before the rest of society are expected to contribute to their upkeep.

  • Posted by DuineSgith August 19, 2021 at 21:02

    Actually, this is not what has been borne out when universal basic income has been put in place in other places:
    https://www.forbes.com/[…]/?sh=283f5806541b

    As has been shown throughout lockdown, most people don't actually like sitting at home doing nothing, Ana the majority of folk will still choose to work regardless of whether they need to to earn a living. MIG would just mean that folk who aren't able to work don't fall through the cracks.

  • Posted by Dober67 August 20, 2021 at 11:55

    As previous comments, this needs lots of consideration as to who will be eligible for MIG. People who don’t want to work is a lot different from people who cannot work, and this should be considered before just giving out money.

  • Posted by DMax August 24, 2021 at 08:45

    'MIG should only be available to people after every single full and part time job available locally has been filled'. I agree with this- however......I think there would need to be a clear agreement / definition wrt what is local. I and many others have commuted long distances eg to Glasgow. If we have done it, then there should be NO exception for people on low income. Treating them fairly needs them to be fair to us ie taxpayers. Not wrapping them in cotton wool and accepting numerous excuses that they cant work here or there....
    Also, with the amount of
    1. training thats available and publically funded
    2. libraries with PCs
    3. 'open' rentable offices that could be 'rented' by this scheme- there no reason why these people cant be training for, and then do some online work.
    Theres plenty of low income folk who are genuine in everything they do. Its the lazy sods who are unemplotyed that still smoke, drink, have full Sky Sports etc paid for by us that has formed my 'harsh hut fair' opinions over many years.

  • Posted by sb87 August 24, 2021 at 22:34

    Universal Income is for basic needs and because of this would continue to incentivise people to work. If people are getting upped to a living wage and doing nothing, why would they continue to work especially for low unskilled hence less stimulating jobs?

    We are seeing clearly how post Brexit is hard to fill in roles in jobs considered less skilled or hard work. This suggestion whilst well intended is going to cause massive costs and loss of fallout side effects as currently proposed. I believe a UIG as described is going to cause more problems than it addresses

  • Posted by EMayo September 06, 2021 at 10:00

    This is untrue. Those who have a sound work ethic would not suddenly abandon their values just because a new policy was introduced. The incentive to work is really quite complex and often peple are stuck in jobs they find unfulfillng but are unable to advance because they cannot afford to undertake the necesssary training. If I could afford to work one less day per week I would have the time/ choice to train and become more qualified/ get a promotion at work. This would leave my current job available for someome else. For me this is an opportunity to gain skills and qualifications and enhance employability. This support is the key to social mobility for the lowest paid but hardworking and conscientious people.
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