End the catastrophic morbidity of lockdown measures
I am absolutely disgusted by the government's response to covid19. The government with their their scaremongering have created a mass hysteria based on fiction.
The lockdown is harmful, disproportionate, directly discriminatory e.g. to women who are more statistically more likely to be single parents and unable to cope, to autistic individuals, to those with mental health issues. To children - age discrimination as they are more likely than other groups to be negatively affected. Although not protected characteristics it is also discriminatory to our poorest members of society who do not have safe, nice homes like those from wealthy backgrounds.
The vast majority of us are not at risk from coronavirus however the Scottish and UK government have caused us immense harm and suffering with these awful measures. You have put the nation in millions of debt, stripped away our freedom and basic human rights, our futures, our health! I have been a strong advocate and supporter of independence along with many of my colleagues and friends, however following Nicola Stugeon's dictatorship message this morning I am seriously regretting my choices. This can't continue.
The elderly and health vulnerable should receive full protection if they so choose, i.e. fully supported to stay at home - financially, emotionally, practically however the rest of us should return to normal life. This lockdown is not sustainable and will not eradicate covid19 because we are not allowing enough exposure to create immunity in the general population. However the morbidity and subsequent mortality it is causing is horrendous. In contract, easing the lockdown would allow the majority of the population to develop a herd immunity and once this is achieved, it will be safe for our elderly and vulnerable.
My elderly neighbours and my elderly grandmother tell me that life is not worth living if they can't see their children and grandchildren.
End this awful abuse of our human rights. It is a a catastrophic failure.
The lockdown is harmful, disproportionate, directly discriminatory e.g. to women who are more statistically more likely to be single parents and unable to cope, to autistic individuals, to those with mental health issues. To children - age discrimination as they are more likely than other groups to be negatively affected. Although not protected characteristics it is also discriminatory to our poorest members of society who do not have safe, nice homes like those from wealthy backgrounds.
The vast majority of us are not at risk from coronavirus however the Scottish and UK government have caused us immense harm and suffering with these awful measures. You have put the nation in millions of debt, stripped away our freedom and basic human rights, our futures, our health! I have been a strong advocate and supporter of independence along with many of my colleagues and friends, however following Nicola Stugeon's dictatorship message this morning I am seriously regretting my choices. This can't continue.
The elderly and health vulnerable should receive full protection if they so choose, i.e. fully supported to stay at home - financially, emotionally, practically however the rest of us should return to normal life. This lockdown is not sustainable and will not eradicate covid19 because we are not allowing enough exposure to create immunity in the general population. However the morbidity and subsequent mortality it is causing is horrendous. In contract, easing the lockdown would allow the majority of the population to develop a herd immunity and once this is achieved, it will be safe for our elderly and vulnerable.
My elderly neighbours and my elderly grandmother tell me that life is not worth living if they can't see their children and grandchildren.
End this awful abuse of our human rights. It is a a catastrophic failure.
Why the contribution is important
To save tens of thousands from the morbidity and subsequent mortality as a direct result of lockdown measures.
by rosie9 on May 07, 2020 at 04:22PM
Posted by Ossian May 07, 2020 at 16:45
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Posted by Fionabr64 May 07, 2020 at 16:52
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Posted by dkwatt May 07, 2020 at 17:17
Lift the lockdown prematurely more die.
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Posted by emwpaisley May 07, 2020 at 17:33
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Posted by JoysieJ May 07, 2020 at 18:34
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Posted by Benthelobey May 07, 2020 at 18:38
As I said on a previous topic – We need action and leadership from the Scottish Government and not delay tactics such as this 'lets all think how we can get out of it' approach - we have plenty of seriously intelligent people in Scotland & the government should be using them to plan and get on with improving things. We have a chance to show how it could be tackled without crippling the economy to get there. I fear we will have no serious economy to return to and will have a longer recession than other parts of the UK (and resulting health and social considerations) if the Scottish government don’t ‘start to put an end’ to lockdown now.
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Posted by susanclutterbuck May 07, 2020 at 18:46
The stats. that are not discussed in any public briefings reveal that Covid-19 has developed into a number of outbreaks with a hugely different impact in urban and densely populated areas than in rural and less populated areas of the UK. It has affected a small percentage of the UK population.
Scotland's population at 5million plus is only 8.2% of the population of the UK. At 27,000 deaths in
England, Scotlands death rate is 5.6 of the UK total and has had only 6.3% share of UK infections.
The north, highlands and islands and western isles of Scotland has seen limited impact of Covid-19,
with my local area of Moray having an infection rate of 0.23% or 1/430 people and a mortality rate
of 0.031% or 1/3,190 people. Our local hospital has had 1 case of the virus. Does this justify a one size fits all approach perpetuated by the Westminster Govt? My rights to education; to work to sustain myself; to health (dental/GP/routine hospital treatments);to have the freedom to move around outside my home; have been scrapped for the last 7 weeks. Perpetuation of this is
not just unprecedented but a flagrant and mismanaged abuse of our Civil Rights and Freedoms.
Manage the outbreaks in care homes and in hospitals- end the generic lockdown whose restrictions are now counter-productive and more harmful than the impact of the virus.
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Posted by AlbaJH May 07, 2020 at 21:39
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Posted by joely5 May 07, 2020 at 23:46
There are very few in the media who are willing to question the justification of the lockdown.
The lockdown won’t eradicate the virus, we are simply prolonging the period of infection. The NHS hasn’t been overwhelmed which was the initial reason given for the lockdown. By continuing with this lockdown we are destroying the economy. The economy IS people’s lives and they will be shortened by the recession the lockdown will cause.
1.5 billion people worldwide are expected to have no source of livelihood. Cancer deaths will increase, poverty and child abuse and domestic abuse will increase, suicides will increase and people will lose their businesses and their homes.
650000 people die globally every year from flu. We never think about it.
450 people die from cancer every day in the U.K. we don’t think about it in this way and aren’t used to having death statistics broadcast to us daily as is happening now and it has panicked people.
By handing over our freedoms and not questioning the effectiveness of the lockdown we can expect to be locked down again and again anytime a new virus comes along, which it will.
I would like to see the lockdown lifted and the evidence and the proof of how effective the lockdown has been in containing the virus, evidence of how the R number is being calculated, transparency around the underlying causes of those who have died and debate in the media over the lockdown and the effects it will have on the country and not just a blind unquestioning acceptance.
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Posted by Zilsniggy May 08, 2020 at 04:04
Get a grip.
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Posted by Berni May 08, 2020 at 08:56
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Posted by Berni May 08, 2020 at 09:01
"Nicola Sturgeon has hit out at the Prime Minister over his bid to suspend Parliament, accusing Boris Johnson of acting like a “dictator” by pushing through an “outrageous assault on basic democratic principles”."
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Posted by harviej May 08, 2020 at 14:31
Surely we in Scotland are living under dictatorship. It certainly feels like it.
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Posted by Chimp May 10, 2020 at 13:44
I believe the R number for the general population is significantly below 1, but is being inflated by care home figures where most new cases seem to be occurring. Lockdown care homes as tight as a drum, and allow the rest of us some respite from the unnecessarily draconian lockdown measures. I live in Lothian where only around 2000 cases have been reported in total from a population of almost 1 million (source: BBC News website). How many patients have been admitted to the Louisa Jordan??? Biggest risk of anyone outside of a care home or hospital catching Covid is in the supermarket! Get some perspective and let us out to participate in activities where we can maintain social distancing.
Sweden had no lockdown at all and have far fewer cases than UK.
The Scottish Government's decision to keep us locked-up longer than England will have a negative impact on the support for Scottish independence. Nicola would do well to remember: Nemo me impune lacessit
I've been a life-long supporter of Scottish independence, and always will be, and have in the past voted SNP as I believed it was the best way to achieve that aim. However their performance in Government is atrocious, with one daft scheme after another. It seems they feel they have to use the limited powers they have just for the sake of it.
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Posted by Cathol May 11, 2020 at 18:05
Initial lockdown, possibly plausible but too late to do much good.
Evidence now shows Covid 19 is not deadly to everyone so needs to stop being treated as such.
Why should the entire population be subject to one set of rules?
You will never please everyone so those you wish to continue lockdown indefinitely then let them.
Everyones circumstances differ and have different attitudes and perception of the risks.
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Posted by GordonM May 11, 2020 at 22:07
Meanwhile the Scottish (& UK) government destroys the economy , as if it did not matter.
Let the people make there own decisions, help the vulnerable (c5% of the population) with shielding -if they want too and let us, the people, manage our lives .
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